Members Angry Grimace Posted December 6, 2007 Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 It's probably the least important part of virtually ANY kind of music, but it's also the most expensive. I'd listen to an album with bad tone that had good music, but I wouldn't listen to an album with great tone and crappy music. Guitars are a better investment than amps anyways, because spending an extra 1000 dollars on a guitar will get you a better playing guitar that will make you better at actual playing, whereas an extra 1000 dollars on an amp will make it sound a little better to about the 10% of the music listening population who cares or can hear it. Oh, and your "brutal" tone sounds the same as every other high gain amp...like {censored}. Turn down the distortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrispsullivan Posted December 6, 2007 Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 extra money does not equal a better playing instrument, manand i think searching for great tone is a great thing, because i strive to make my music sound better in EVERY way i can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MaximumMetal Posted December 6, 2007 Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 Blasphemy!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members "sasquatch" Posted December 6, 2007 Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 Dimebag's Tone = Overrated Fixed. Couldn't agree more. I never really liked the sound akin to a metal zone, boosted with a metal zone, straight into the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BXN95 Posted December 6, 2007 Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 +1 Sit back and enjoy, this promises to get interesting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DyeMusica Posted December 6, 2007 Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 Yup I totally agree, nothing like the killer tones of a $3000 PRS through a crate practice amp.In the end, amps mean nothing!Your really on something here... To bad its crack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Grimace Posted December 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 extra money does not equal a better playing instrument, manand i think searching for great tone is a great thing, because i strive to make my music sound better in EVERY way i can You could make your music better by practicing and coming up with better songs/riffs, and your sound better with an equalizer. Spending a lot of $ doens't equal better music. And generally spending more on an instrument usually does mean a better playing one unless you're randomly buying them from the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted December 6, 2007 Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 It's probably the least important part of virtually ANY kind of music, but it's also the most expensive.I'd listen to an album with bad tone that had good music, but I wouldn't listen to an album with great tone and crappy music. Guitars are a better investment than amps anyways, because spending an extra 1000 dollars on a guitar will get you a better playing guitar that will make you better at actual playing, whereas an extra 1000 dollars on an amp will make it sound a little better to about the 10% of the music listening population who cares or can hear it.Oh, and your "brutal" tone sounds the same as every other high gain amp...like {censored}. Turn down the distortion. Are the OJ bullies making fun of you again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheToneMan Posted December 6, 2007 Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 I think playing good is overrated. If you have good tone, who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Grimace Posted December 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 Yup I totally agree, nothing like the killer tones of a $3000 PRS through a crate practice amp.In the end, amps mean nothing!Your really on something here...To bad its crack! Right, because taking the worst possible example (a crate practice amp) proves your point right. No, but if you think a 5150 sounds 1500 dollars worse than whatever flavor of the month ENGL/Diezel whatever, you're completely insane, becuase they both have 3x more distortion than necessary, meaning they sound largely identical to the vast majority of people, even guitarists. You might as well just buy the cheaper hyper-gain amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Grimace Posted December 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 I think playing good is overrated. If you have good tone, who cares. you mean "underrated"? Otherwise, this makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrispsullivan Posted December 6, 2007 Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 You could make your music better by practicing and coming up with better songs/riffs, and your sound better with an equalizer. Spending a lot of $ doens't equal better music. And generally spending more on an instrument usually does mean a better playing one unless you're randomly buying them from the internet. yes, but youre missing the point. i want my music to sound better in EVERY way. not just my playing. that includes TONE. also, i never said spending a bunch of cash means better music. i actually think theyre a lot of cheap options when it comes to amps that sound great. having better tone makes music more pleasing to listen to as a whole. and no, youre wrong, spending more money does not=a better playing guitar. my beat to hell squier that was $80 is easily my favorite playing guitar of all time and i'll NEVER get rid of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Grimace Posted December 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 Are the OJ bullies making fun of you again? Great post. I haven't regularly posted in OJ for a year or so. Lee Flier gave me this usertitle, and I didn't ask for it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members greg apocalypse Posted December 6, 2007 Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 Are the OJ bullies making fun of you again? they must be. he's just trying to start {censored} that's all. Who cares what a guy with a macdonalds character as his avatar thinks? Read that post and tell me this is someone you'd get a long with in real life. epic phail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Grimace Posted December 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 yes, but youre missing the point. i want my music to sound better in EVERY way. not just my playing. that includes TONE.also, i never said spending a bunch of cash means better music. i actually think theyre a lot of cheap options when it comes to amps that sound great. having better tone makes music more pleasing to listen to as a whole.and no, youre wrong, spending more money does not=a better playing guitar. my beat to hell squier that was $80 is easily my favorite playing guitar of all time and i'll NEVER get rid of it. I never said that there are no cheap guitars that sound good, but you're better off spending more money on a nice guitar than on an amplifier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MaximumMetal Posted December 6, 2007 Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 I find that improving as a player and the quest for great tone go hand in hand. I find myself playing more frequently and better with each new piece of gear I buy. If I'm playing a Squier Champ I'm not really motivated and any good riff I think of doesn't come to life like it would on a nicer amp. Tone and playing go hand in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members greg apocalypse Posted December 6, 2007 Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 I never said that there are no cheap guitars that sound good, but you're better off spending more money on a nice guitar than on an amplifier. not for me. you've got it hella ass backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrispsullivan Posted December 6, 2007 Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 I never said that there are no cheap guitars that sound good, but you're better off spending more money on a nice guitar than on an amplifier. no, you're notyou're better off spending money on what YOU think sounds good and/or plays goodlet people buy what they want, even if it does cost $4000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bullhead Posted December 6, 2007 Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 l2troll n?b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ravelm3nt Posted December 6, 2007 Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 Right, because taking the worst possible example (a crate practice amp) proves your point right. No, but if you think a 5150 sounds 1500 dollars worse than whatever flavor of the month ENGL/Diezel whatever, you're completely insane, becuase they both have 3x more distortion than necessary, meaning they sound largely identical to the vast majority of people, even guitarists. You might as well just buy the cheaper hyper-gain amp. No difference between a 5150 and a Herbert. You're right on the money. Out of curiousity, when was the last time you got laid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrispsullivan Posted December 6, 2007 Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 I find that improving as a player and the quest for great tone go hand in hand. I find myself playing more frequently and better with each new piece of gear I buy. If I'm playing a Squier Champ I'm not really motivated and any good riff I think of doesn't come to life like it would on a nicer amp. Tone and playing go hand in hand. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheToneMan Posted December 6, 2007 Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 you mean "underrated"? Otherwise, this makes no sense. It makes perfect sense. Who gives a {censored} if you can play good but your tone stinks. I think as long as you have good tone, your set:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted December 6, 2007 Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 None of my guitars are terribly expensive. My main two are an 80's RG550 ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rushtallica Posted December 6, 2007 Members Share Posted December 6, 2007 Sounds like a good argument, and it may have a bit of merit, but then again I have a couple of $150 guitars set up nice with pickup upgrades in addition to cheap amps that do what I want along with a boost and/or eq pedal. Still, if you don't like the tone you're getting and if it's not responsive to what you're doing if you're into dynamics, the playing will be less inspired than otherwise, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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