Members david k Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 I read somewhere that there was a model like that, but searching online has not yielded any results.. d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 Besides the Artist models? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dewysoss Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 I think you're looking for Valvestates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 I think you're looking for ValvestatesUmmm, no. You are backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Exocaster Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 I think you're looking for Valvestates That's a solid-state pre with a tube stage in there somewhere and a SS power section. The Artist series is what you're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ThisIsExile Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 I think you're looking for Valvestates +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 +1Wow!!!:facepalm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dewysoss Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 That's a solid-state pre with a tube stage in there somewhere and a SS power section. The Artist series is what you're looking for. I stand corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fatcat Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 artist 3203. I got 2 of them and they sound like the hammer of Thor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 artist 3203. I got 2 of them and they sound like the hammer of Thor. What was the little single-ended 10 watt combo? Studio something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 The Artist models were the 3203 head and 4203 combo. SS preamp. 2 x EL-34 power amp. 30 watts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GibsonGuy07 Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 I've often wondered why this design hasn't caught on. There have been so many good amps with SS pres and tube posts(my main amp is a musicman afterall). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members teemuk Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 1. Solid-state does not appeal to people 2. An amp which already has the most expensive parts of tube amps (power and output transformers as well as power tubes) doesn't turn significantly more expensive when few preamp tubes are added. An "all-tube" amp makes better sales. In modern amps the preamp is still likely filled with all kinds of SS circuitry anyway. 3. Who says this kind of hybrid "hasn't caught on"? There are plenty of amp models with SS pre and tube output. How do you count it. If there are 2 preamp tubes (four gain stages) and a lot more gain stages made with SS circuitry will it still qualify as SS pre?.... There are even more amps that are like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GibsonGuy07 Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 Fair enough. I was just basing my question on the fact that you can get an artist, musicman, or Peavey VT for a fraction of the cost of an "all tube" amp and they are all good sounding amps regardless of whether or not SS appeals to you. Especially amongst people aound here. People sing the praises of tubes and then stick a $75 box in front of it. Doesn't make much sense to me. People get too hung up on "all tube." Maybe that's why as far as I'm concerned they never caught on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jenksdrummer Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 I've often wondered why this design hasn't caught on. There have been so many good amps with SS pres and tube posts(my main amp is a musicman afterall). Line 6 Spider Valve anyone? Most recent example... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GibsonGuy07 Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 1. Solid-state does not appeal to people2. An amp which already has the most expensive parts of tube amps (power and output transformers as well as power tubes) doesn't turn significantly more expensive when few preamp tubes are added. An "all-tube" amp makes better sales. In modern amps the preamp is still likely filled with all kinds of SS circuitry anyway.3. Who says this kind of hybrid "hasn't caught on"? There are plenty of amp models with SS pre and tube output. How do you count it. If there are 2 preamp tubes (four gain stages) and a lot more gain stages made with SS circuitry will it still qualify as SS pre?.... There are even more amps that are like this. ...which is only loosely similar to the amp mentioned by the OP. I'm referring solely to 100% (or close to it) SS pres and tube posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grumphh Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 900's.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jenksdrummer Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 This has both tube pre and front end modelling capabilities as alluded by the following......which is only loosely similar to the amp mentioned by the OP. I'm referring solely to 100% (or close to it) SS pres and tube posts. Spider valve does not have a tube preamp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GibsonGuy07 Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 Spider valve does not have a tube preamp... Modeling + Tubes The Spider Valve design combines 12AX7 preamp tubes with Line 6's signature modeling front-end, a marriage that allows each part of the sonic equation to deliver what it does best: creamy, cascading distortion and enriched harmonics from the tubes, and 12 of the world's finest amp models and seven stunning effects from the modeling front end. Somebody doesn't know what they're talking about and it's either MF or unnamed internet guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members david k Posted October 8, 2008 Author Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 900's.... Thats funny! (your avatar looks very familiar for some reason)The reason I was asking about the ss pre / tube pwr is I was thinking about getting the JMP1 rackmount tube pre amp and then pairing that up with a tube power amp without having to spend the $$$ on a tube head:thu:But that was just a thought....I'm just gonna save up for a JCM800......:blah: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members teemuk Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 From technical point of view, there really are no such things as "preamp tubes". In audio applications, there are either "power tubes", which are tubes that can handle enough power to provide a significant amount of power amplification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mackin Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 I read somewhere that there was a model like that, but searching online has not yielded any results.. d Marshall Mode4 ? I don't know otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members futurism Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 this thread yielded some amazing responses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members teemuk Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 Mode Four (MF350) is pretty much just a Marshall AVT lineup -style hybrid amp with a high output power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grumphh Posted October 8, 2008 Members Share Posted October 8, 2008 Thats funny! (your avatar looks very familiar for some reason) The reason I was asking about the ss pre / tube pwr is I was thinking about getting the JMP1 rackmount tube pre amp and then pairing that up with a tube power amp without having to spend the $$$ on a tube head:thu: But that was just a thought.... I'm just gonna save up for a JCM800...... :blah: Hmmm - my avatar is a sunset in Denmark... maybe you just spend too much time on this board The problem with the 800 is of course that it is very much a one trick pony as opposed to the JMP-1 - then again, they do sound nice...Yup, getting gear means making decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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