Members Tullsterx Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 Who in the hell are the Jonas Bros? . . . anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fivebodyblade Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 In reponse to 8. Ya the hole straight edge thing got out of hand but it produced some good bands(Refused for example). hahaha... Refused was not a straight edge band... EDIT: Actually, that's kind of hearsay I guess... (but isn't that what the internet is for?lol) It's just when I think of sXe I think of DC in the early 80's... the whole dischord movement... Minor Threat, Government issue, SOA etc... IMO there's way better examples of sXe bands that actually pioneered the straight edge movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members iambarbie Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 And Jonas Brothers. Theyre not even attractive young lads selling on sex appeal liek N'Sync or something. Theyre ugly. And crappy. And there the biggest band in America.But thank god I have Muse to make all the bad music stay away! Oh, Jonas Brothers... They're just tween disney crap. In a couple of years, one will end up in rehab for drug addiction, one will come out with a sex tape and the other will come out of the closet. And muse = perfection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Music Calgary Posted August 14, 2008 Members Share Posted August 14, 2008 Madonna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WrdsNmuzik Posted August 14, 2008 Members Share Posted August 14, 2008 I can agree with some of these and chuckle over some of the others. what keeps coming up in this list is mannerisms. somebody mentioned creed as a vedder-ripoff, but I never could listen to vedder in the first place. his phrasing struck me as so unnatural and just wrong....like the worst of bono when he's doing his dramatic-breathing thing. but those are often the things that fans latch on to, and that's why I can't get worked up about who likes who anymore. as a kid I loved abba when everyone was digging aerosmith, and later I loved brit-punk when everyone was STILL digging aerosmith and the evil trio (stones/who/doors). but one singer, one singer who still mystifies me . . . janis frickin' joplin. seems like she was a sweet stoner gal, but god, what a trainwreck of a singer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudolf von Hagenwil Posted August 14, 2008 Members Share Posted August 14, 2008 The band "Sahara Trees", there are no trees in the sahara. "Sahara Lumberjack" would be an appropriate name for this band, then at least I would know they worked there for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boytbpc Posted August 14, 2008 Members Share Posted August 14, 2008 Joni Mitchell. She runs some of my favorite songs on the Last Waltz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nick* Posted August 14, 2008 Members Share Posted August 14, 2008 ha, south park, kyles mother, wha what whaaat?!?!?no, they are dumb, not bad, but dumb Okaaay....this is news to me... I wouldn't say they are all dumb. Hell, Tom Morello did graduate from Harvard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nick* Posted August 14, 2008 Members Share Posted August 14, 2008 I can agree with some of these and chuckle over some of the others. what keeps coming up in this list is mannerisms. somebody mentioned creed as a vedder-ripoff, but I never could listen to vedder in the first place. his phrasing struck me as so unnatural and just wrong....like the worst of bono when he's doing his dramatic-breathing thing.but those are often the things that fans latch on to, and that's why I can't get worked up about who likes who anymore. as a kid I loved abba when everyone was digging aerosmith, and later I loved brit-punk when everyone was STILL digging aerosmith and the evil trio (stones/who/doors). but one singer, one singer who still mystifies me . . . janis frickin' joplin. seems like she was a sweet stoner gal, but god, what a trainwreck of a singer. Wow...I love Eddie Vedder. Obviously he writes great lyrics, but on top of that I think his voice is very unique and almost always matching pitch when I see him live. And Janis Joplin....in my opinion...greatest female rock singer I've ever heard in my entire life...not a big fan of her music though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OAFCORE Posted August 14, 2008 Members Share Posted August 14, 2008 I'll start.... cannibal corpse does there fan base consist of serial killers and rapists or something? See I think when it comes to Cannibal Corpse (and most death metal for that matter) the vocals is what turns musicians off....But if listen past the vocals and listen to what the music you'll realize these guys are brilliant...And watching them live is unREAL, they play those guitars like it's nothing, dont even break a sweat....I'm not saying all death metal is good, because there is more {censored} out there than anything else....but cmon as a musician you have to a least respect the chops....especially their newer stuff..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dch528 Posted August 14, 2008 Members Share Posted August 14, 2008 Bob Dylan- I doesn't matter how good the lyrics are if the singer sounds like he took a shot of battery acid. Nirvana- I think he only got so popular because he died. Alice in Chains and SoundGarden did a much better job at the grunge thing. Sex Pistols- Really, they suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IanAlderman Posted August 16, 2008 Members Share Posted August 16, 2008 I think that overall, the mainstream success that certain artists enjoy will never be enjoyed by fellow musicians. I think Hinder and Nickelback and Creed and many others that are out, or have been out, will just fade away and give birth to a new era of whatever you want to call it. Remember when Smashmouth was out? What happened to them? Who really cares? I'm glad to say that I haven't seen anyone misunderstand the popularity of Incubus- I love how they're always evolving and how their albums are different. The Chili Peppers are very popular, yet very talented. It's easy to see why they're popular- they're enduring and talented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted August 16, 2008 Members Share Posted August 16, 2008 See I think when it comes to Cannibal Corpse (and most death metal for that matter) the vocals is what turns musicians off....But if listen past the vocals and listen to what the music you'll realize these guys are brilliant...And watching them live is unREAL, they play those guitars like it's nothing, dont even break a sweat....I'm not saying all death metal is good, because there is more {censored} out there than anything else....but cmon as a musician you have to a least respect the chops....especially their newer stuff..... One of my pals has exceptionally wide taste -- and a penchant for the morbid and angry -- and has exposed me to a small but select range of black metal and I have to say that the charms of that necrophilia-and-dismemberment obsessed genre continue to escape me. I once talked to a guy who ran a tire making machine at the old Firestone plant in LA. Every minute he pumped out something like 15 tires (or his part of the process). Hundreds an hour. This was 30 years ago and the process was not automated -- it relied on near-perfect timing and incredible resilience and determination by the operator, an enormous amount of skill. Talent, even, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted August 16, 2008 Members Share Posted August 16, 2008 Bob Dylan- I doesn't matter how good the lyrics are if the singer sounds like he took a shot of battery acid.Nirvana- I think he only got so popular because he died. Alice in Chains and SoundGarden did a much better job at the grunge thing.Sex Pistols- Really, they suck. You never step into the same battery acid twice... er... no, I meant Dylan. I find much of his later work very much not to my liking, neither singiner nor writing. But at other times, his singing has been serviceable and his writing not without merit. But -- in his prime -- his aggressive, edgy, and toneless (but not tuneless, eh?) vocals, his keening, ear-ripping harmonica and his corrosively earnest lyrics, his dark and knife-edged humor, and his phantasmagoric casts of characters really achieved a level of artistic actualization seldom achieved. In his moment, he was amazing. With regard to Nirvana vs, AiC and or SoundGarden, I'd say the only thing those bands really have in common was the scene. They are so different as to be difficult to compare. Nirvana's essential folk rock/punk roots are entirely different than the other bands. I can understand that some might find them simplistic and/or find the lyrical content annoyingly obscure -- but for those who like raw and vital outsider pop [hard to think of it as 'outsider' in light of subsequent success but think about when the album came out], they were not at all without strong charms. There's been so much truly awful punk rock (and that was a genre I identified strongly with in the late 70s) since then and a certain jaded approach is perhaps understandable -- there's none of the shock of newly broken rules for those coming to the Pistols three decades later. It's easy to disrespect the Pistols in some ways: they were an assembled band, like the Monkees or Peter, Paul, and Mary, but there was so much chaos in that mix that what came out of the process was as unpredictable as the endings of their songs once seemed. And, at their best, there's a rage and honesty in Lyrdon's lyrics that, coupled the particularly raw but intrinsically traditionalist rock and roll of the band, really spoke for people around the world who felt disenfranchised from the mainstream culture product of white bread disco and overblown soft rock from aging 60s stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rsadasiv Posted August 16, 2008 Members Share Posted August 16, 2008 Bob Dylan- I doesn't matter how good the lyrics are if the singer sounds like he took a shot of battery acid.Nirvana- I think he only got so popular because he died. Alice in Chains and SoundGarden did a much better job at the grunge thing.Sex Pistols- Really, they suck. Weirdly, these are three of my favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cripes Posted August 16, 2008 Members Share Posted August 16, 2008 Van Morrison, ELO, KISS (I think KISS stole Alice Cooper's act), Led Zepplin, anything McCartney/Wings, same for the BeeGee's (even earlier than disco though Trafalagr had a couple songs), Janis Joplin's corroded pipes, Hendrix, The Doors, the GuessWho (Burton Cummings was gay, eh?), much of the Beatles and Stones, Bread, Cream and other flora/fawna band names, Donovon, Dion, etc... I actually liked Dylan for his writing and boldness. It took big ones to push air through those pipes in public. I'd say the same about Joplin but I just didn't get her act at all. And, she was pretty hard to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Swingfinger Posted August 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 16, 2008 hahaha... Refused was not a straight edge band...EDIT: Actually, that's kind of hearsay I guess... (but isn't that what the internet is for?lol) It's just when I think of sXe I think of DC in the early 80's... the whole dischord movement... Minor Threat, Government issue, SOA etc... IMO there's way better examples of sXe bands that actually pioneered the straight edge movement. Straight Edge isn't really a genre its more of a lifestyle... Refused were a hardcore/punk band who just happened to be straight edge vegans. Its kind of a fuzzy topic. Is "Anarcho" punk really a genre or just the bands political affiliation/lifestyle attached to a genre in an attempt to create a subculture/genre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Swingfinger Posted August 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 16, 2008 I think that overall, the mainstream success that certain artists enjoy will never be enjoyed by fellow musicians. I think Hinder and Nickelback and Creed and many others that are out, or have been out, will just fade away and give birth to a new era of whatever you want to call it. Remember when Smashmouth was out? What happened to them? Who really cares? I'm glad to say that I haven't seen anyone misunderstand the popularity of Incubus- I love how they're always evolving and how their albums are different. The Chili Peppers are very popular, yet very talented. It's easy to see why they're popular- they're enduring and talented.I've been a fan of Incubus since FA and with the exception of FA and SCIENCE I have liked each album less and less. Morning View and Make yourself were Excellent, but it seems like as they aged they lost their edge and sense of adventure. They say they never want to make the same album but they drift more into mainstream pop rock with each release. I am on the fence with Light Grenades. I think I did enjoy it more than Crow Left and it did have some great highlights. Maybe Incubus will dig deep and pull something out of left field but until than I've kind of lost interest. They do put on one hell of a live show though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IanAlderman Posted August 16, 2008 Members Share Posted August 16, 2008 I was more into Crow vs Light Grenades- it's taken quite a bit for me to get into LG. Agreed, I love their early early stuff, namely S.C.I.E.N.C.E. and FA- I think Make Yourself is one of the last albums that I like in it's fullest existence. I listened to Morning View and Crow awhile ago, and it doesn't have the same effect it did growing up, that's for sure. I think if people listen to Crow and LG, they can see Incubus maturing which can be a positive or a negative, depending on who you ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveBallesteros Posted August 16, 2008 Members Share Posted August 16, 2008 The goddamned Jonas Brothers.The boy-band era died around ten years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IanAlderman Posted August 16, 2008 Members Share Posted August 16, 2008 Now who on earth are the Jonas Brothers? I've never heard of them until this thread- maybe I'm blessed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rsadasiv Posted August 16, 2008 Members Share Posted August 16, 2008 Now who on earth are the Jonas Brothers? I've never heard of them until this thread- maybe I'm blessed though. You clearly do not have tweenaged daughters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Swingfinger Posted August 17, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 17, 2008 The Jonas Brothers are the male equivalent of Hannah Montana/ Miileeeeh cirees(spelling?) The Bastard Children of Disney marketing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted August 17, 2008 Members Share Posted August 17, 2008 Mutant bastard children... Actually, though, I haven't heard them. But I saw a picture. You could tell just by looking. ________ Important political correctness note: I firmly believe there is no such thing as an illegitimate child. I'm not even sure there are illegitimate parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Li10 Posted August 17, 2008 Members Share Posted August 17, 2008 The goddamned Jonas Brothers. The boy-band era died around ten years ago. they make me sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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