Members Tommy Horrible Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 I thought you guys bagged on Gibson QC. What pieces of {censored}. I would take a studio any day over one of those heaps. I have never seem a USA gibson with shotty workmanship these things had. The finish sucked, the binding looked like {censored},the frets sucked. They were just all around ulgy and cheap looking and very inconsistent looking. The damn guitar just screamed cheap POS, and and they were all like $999. LTD's FTL, I would take Epiphone any day over one of those, and they are alot cheaper, or just spend a little bit more and get a real quality instrument like a studio. What the hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 I for one, think they are incredible guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Juggernaut- Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 I for one, think they are incredible guitars. +1 I'd take one over a Gibby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dthraco Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 I for one, think they are incredible guitars. +2. If I didn't already have a Les Paul, I would get one of the standards. Close enough for Rock n Roll and WAY less $$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 I've found this to be true with LTD's as well. Obviously not all of them, but most that I've played have been on par with Epiphones and no where near Gibson. Plus, I don't understand why everyone loves the $1000 import LTD's, and then bag on ~$1000 Mexican made Fenders citing the price is too much for an import... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crunchtime Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 I used to have an EC1000. It did have some fret issues. The high E would always get stuck under the fret ends. I supposed that could have been fixed but, I got it dirt cheap and gave it to my brother. He loves it except for the fret thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 i've played several LTD and even ESP eclipse style guitars, and they were all solid. one of them, an EC-500 had some fret work that looked an awful lot like a J custom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ComingApart Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 I never got the hoopla over the Eclipses anyway. They always felt cheap and looked gaudy to me. I'll take a GOOD studio or Epi any day of the week. The LTD's seem to be more consistent that the Gibsons and Epi's. I'll give them that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members "sasquatch" Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 I've found this to be true with LTD's as well. Obviously not all of them, but most that I've played have been on par with Epiphones and no where near Gibson. Plus, I don't understand why everyone loves the $1000 import LTD's, and then bag on ~$1000 Mexican made Fenders citing the price is too much for an import... this is my general experience. i played some EC1000s, the ones with the rediculous binding, a few weeks ago and i left unimpressed. all 4 of them lacked resonance, big time. they sounded completely dead acoustically. on a constrasting note, several of the newer epiphone les pauls i have played recently have been really, really nice. i mean like, "i can't believe it is not butter" nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Extasyguy Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 ........Nevermind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 this is my general experience. i played some EC1000s, the ones with the rediculous binding, a few weeks ago and i left unimpressed. all 4 of them lacked resonance, big time. they sounded completely dead acoustically. on a constrasting note, several of the newer epiphone les pauls i have played recently have been really, really nice. i mean like, "i can't believe it is not butter" nice. Maybe the high gain guys don't notice as much, or maybe I've just played the same ones you have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tommy Horrible Posted May 29, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 I never got the hoopla over the Eclipses anyway. They always felt cheap and looked gaudy to me. I'll take a GOOD studio or Epi any day of the week. The LTD's seem to be more consistent that the Gibsons and Epi's. I'll give them that. Only played 3 for them, and this was the first time I had ever seen them in person, but I was like:freak: WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 Every 300 or higher series LTD I've played has felt great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SiCkboy78 Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 Hit an miss at that price range. Although, some models are kind of high. Same with Epi, and well Gibson is no great shakes either. I've played a few duds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uberscha11 Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 I'm sorry, but anyone who says ltd's suck is just an idiot, perhaps the one you played was not so good or maybe they just aren't your thing (i for one am a tele and les paul guy), but they are phenomenal guitars for the money, the ec-401 is probably one of the best guitars you can get for $600, and don't get me started on how bad epiphones QC is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 not all the EC-1000s have that lame ass abalone, either. they make a white one and a flat black one that don't use that {censored} at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JonVengeance Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 I've noticed the same thing about the LTDs. When I was shopping for Les Pauls, before I had one I tried out Heritage, the LTDs and Gibson Standards. The LTD eclipses I tried sounded dead, felt cheap and all but the "vintage finish" ones look horrible. I ended I buying a Standard because it sounded great, the quality was great (I did try 5 different Standards before I got the one I did, but not because the others had QC issues. I just liked the way it felt.) and it was $500 off that weekend (this was right before they revamped the Standard line). The Heritage was great too. I just got the Gibson for cheaper than I could have gotten the Heritage for so I went with it. Those LTD EC-500s and 1000s just didn't do it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Extasyguy Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 I'd personally take an Epiphone over an LTD. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uberscha11 Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 lol, well duh a gibson is going to be better than an ltd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JonVengeance Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 lol, well duh a gibson is going to be better than an ltd... I guess, but a lot of people here don't seem to think so. Plus you have to factor in cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Existentialist Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 I don't like LTDs either. People seem to think you're just believing a stereotype about where a guitars made determining it's quality but for me, the stereotype proves to be truer every guitar I buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SiCkboy78 Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 lol, well duh a gibson is going to be better than an ltd... I wish this was true. Should be, but you never know with Gibsons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ComingApart Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 Only played 3 for them, and this was the first time I had ever seen them in person, but I was like:freak: WTF the internet buzz on 'em had me wanting to try one. I found a shop that stocked them and was immediately struck by how gaudy they look in person. Then I picked it up and did a WTF again, it was like playing a plastic toy. Acoustically and plugged in, bland and lifeless. I later played the passive pup'd versions and was underwhelmed with it as well, even with the same PUP configuration as my main guitar, it just had nothing there. Everyone I've played since then has pretty much been a repeat. innerwebz hype FAIL......again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sex Panther Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 My old EC-1000 played better than any Gibson I've ever tried. But I can't say anything about the newer LTD's. Especially since they raised the prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tommy Horrible Posted May 29, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 I'm sorry, but anyone who says ltd's suck is just an idiot, perhaps the one you played was not so good or maybe they just aren't your thing (i for one am a tele and les paul guy), but they are phenomenal guitars for the money, the ec-401 is probably one of the best guitars you can get for $600, and don't get me started on how bad epiphones QC is.... Maybe it's just because I have 3 Gibby Pauls that are all great so that's my baseline, and that's what I'm expecting them to be like with all the hype they get here and bagging on Gibson, but they weren't even close, to my Studio, let alone my Classic or Traditional. The Finish,:facepalm:The Frets:facepalm: The Binding:facepalm: The Cheap Plasticy feel:facepalm:, The Resonance:facepalm: Seriously, what are those things finished with? Plastic? Sure as hell wasn't lacquer. And what POS wood are they using? It sounded like Basswood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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