Members Mark Blackburn Posted July 10, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 10, 2010 Something I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted July 14, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 14, 2010 Reading this month's 'SHOWCASE' (July 2010) thread reminded me that strong melodies and great lyrics may be "so rare" (to coin a song title) but they're still being written! And the best of them can become Grammy-winning songs given 'cover' renditions by great singers. Case in point: "HERE'S TO LOVE."It's the title track from that Shirley Horn album [mentioned above] acknowledged in a survey by a certain jazz publication as Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted July 14, 2010 Members Share Posted July 14, 2010 Well, it really seems to be based to a substantial degree on an old Chilean song (original title "Gracias a la Vida") written by Violeta Parra and which was made world famous (outside the benighted culture-dummy zone of the United States) by Mercedes Sosa. You can read the Spanish lyrics with a rough translation here. (Surfer beware; lyrics sites typically live 'beyond the law' and so are sometimes infection vectors for malware.) And you can read the in places quite similar Molinary-Butler "version" here. Here in the US, Molinary and Butler usually get credit for the song. Outside the US, credit is typically given to the originally credited author, Parra. "Here's to Life": http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=17:1871040 | "Gracias a la Vida": http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=17:1729985 You'll see that credit is sometimes also mistakenly given to Joan Baez, who first covered the song back in the 70s, when it was largely unknown in the US. There is a serious cloud of conflicting claims to authorship credit on this song. Which made it so drolly ironic that Robby originally thought he could slip it past me (as a prank, I'm sure) as an 'original' when he first posted it in the main forum. Poor Robby, he couldn't believe I knew the song -- but I was already quite familiar with both the original Spanish language version and the 're-written' (ahem) English version -- from recordings by Sosa, Baez, Horn, and others. PS... Horn's version -- like almost all her work -- is very beautiful, but anyone who likes that version should hear Mercedes Sosa's long-established version, which is amazing. There' a live recording on the album of the same name, where the audience is clearly on its feet, cheering and clapping, for maybe the better part of a minute as the song ends... it's how closely associated she has been with the song for the last 40 years or so. PPS... There's also a Swedish and a Finnish version by Finnish singer Arja Saijonmaa -- give that one a shot, Robby -- I'm pretty sure I've never heard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted July 15, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 15, 2010 As a student of song origins I was fascinated to find all the links you kindly provided and checked each one. What I find is that Mercedes Sosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted July 15, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 15, 2010 Quincy Jones tells of the time when he was on Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted July 15, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 15, 2010 Hank Cochran died today. He nearly made it to his 75th birthday. Hank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted July 16, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 I know, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted July 16, 2010 Members Share Posted July 16, 2010 Originally Posted by Mark Blackburn As a student of song origins I was fascinated to find all the links you kindly provided and checked each one. What I find is that Mercedes Sosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted July 21, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 21, 2010 Quick question: What does the word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted July 23, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 23, 2010 My Rifle, My Pony, and Me . . .Seven years before he wrote his Academy Award-winning words to Johnny Mandel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ShaneErikBowman Posted July 23, 2010 Members Share Posted July 23, 2010 My Rifle, My Pony, and Me . . .One of my favorites. It's a top request when I sing to the kids at bedtime.Thanks for your great posts Mark.Shane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted July 25, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2010 First, a big thank you to Shane. You made my day -- picturing you singing requests at bedtime: is there any better way to end the day?I came here today to sing the praises of Carly Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted July 29, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 29, 2010 You can't copyright a song title (you knew that) and Wikipedia lists at least eight songs with the same title, "STAY WITH ME." None of them the one I was looking for -- the one recorded by Frank Sinatra (at his vocal peak in 1963) and played earlier this hour on satellite radio by Rod McKuen.And who is he? Well for the 30-somethings who (I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted July 29, 2010 Moderators Share Posted July 29, 2010 Thought I'd straighten out the layout to bring better light to this wonderful rhyme and cadence. Nice...Though I grow and I blunder And I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted July 31, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 31, 2010 Raquel Welch, the sexiest woman of my generation, (see p 4 of this thread) alluded, in a recent interview, to the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted August 2, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 2, 2010 As if to say to me, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted August 2, 2010 Members Share Posted August 2, 2010 I think you need a blog, Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted August 2, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 2, 2010 Frank made the remark midway through his "live" performance (in April 1987 at the Golden Nugget in Las Vegas) of his favorite Carolyn Leigh song -- WITCHCRAFT. Channel 75 satellite radio played it earlier this day. On another thread, someone asked "what's your favorite line" in a song?" This song, with words by Carolyn Leigh set to Cy Coleman's wonderful melody, contains several of my favorites. For those who never heard it before . . ."Those fingers in my hair, that sly, 'come-hither' stare -- that strips my conscience bare -- it's Witchcraft. And I've got no defence for it, the heat is too intense for it, what good would common-sense for it, do?'Cause it's witchcraft! crazy witchcraft -- and although, I know, it's strictly taboo . . . [bridge]When you arouse the need in me, my heart says, 'Yes, indeed!' in me; proceed, with what you're leading me to![At which point Sinatra interrupts himself with a laugh to say, "One of the dirtiest songs I ever heard!]It's such an ancient pitch, but one I'd never switch! 'Cause there's no nicer witch . . . than YOU.-- Carolyn Leigh (1957) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted August 2, 2010 Moderators Share Posted August 2, 2010 Establish parallel construction, then give it a twist. Establish a pattern, then cut across the grain."Those fingers in my hair that sly, 'come-hither' starethat strips my conscience bare it's Witchcraft. And I've got no defense for it, the heat is too intense for itwhat good would common-sense for it do?Establish parallel construction, then give it a twist. Establish a pattern, then cut across the grain.Like King's I've got a dream speech in some ways. So let freedom right from the prodigious hilltopsmighty mountainsHeightening AllegheniesSnowcapped RockiesI love when MLK switches from privileged America to include the segregated areas, to better break the established pattern and make the point, he drops the adjectives. Below:Let freedom ring from the curvaceous peaks of California (but then)But not only that; let freedom ring fromStone Mountain of GeorgiaFrom Lookout Mountain of TennesseeEvery hill and mo-hill of Mississippi.Sans adjectives. Pattern, pattern, pattern, drop.It feels good. Witchcraft does it nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted August 2, 2010 Moderators Share Posted August 2, 2010 Note in Witchcraft, how that parallel construction carries through in the music as well, or visa-versa. Think of those chords comping against that repeating melody, evolving and building for each phrase"Those fingers in my hair bamthat sly, 'come-hither' stare Bamthat strips my conscience bare BAM!(then elegantly trips on the deviation with a stop or resolve)it's Witchcraft. resolveI love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted August 2, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 2, 2010 "Establish parallel construction, then give it a twist. Establish a pattern, then cut across the grain."Thank you, Lee for that insightful analysis. And particular thanks for your alluding to the similarity of cadences (and sudden interruptions) contained within the most stirring speech I ever heard -- the Reverend Dr. King's "I HAVE A DREAM" (I remember seeing it "live" on television that day; it still gives me goose bumps). But I wasn't able to analyze it, the way you have, Lee. Appreciated too, your concluding observation about WITCHCRAFT's perfectly-mated melody by Cy Coleman:" . . . how that parallel construction carries through in the music as well [and]those chords comping against that repeating melody, evolving and building for each phrase"Those fingers in my hair [bam]that sly, 'come-hither' stare [bam]that strips my conscience bare [bAM!](then elegantly trips on the deviation with a stop or resolve)" . . . it's Witchcraft." [resolve][i love it too! Thanks, as well, to our moderator "Blue2Blue" for that implied compliment!]-- Mark B. of the North Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted August 3, 2010 Moderators Share Posted August 3, 2010 Downright delectable, diggity dog!! Yeah, I love that stuff. From Webster's Book on Grammar: "Parallelism, or parallel structure, means that grammatical elements that share the same function will share the same form."Meaning ideas of equal rank are expressed in similar ways. For example, adjectives are paired with adjectives, and verbs correspond with matching verbs in tense, mood, and voice. Nouns with nouns. You're the artist, paint with the words.prodigious hilltopsmighty mountainsParallel structure. But dig how Too Close For Comfort plays with parallelism. Be fair, beware? After using true parallelism, the screwdriver is thrown in the gear box covertly.Jerry Bock's tune and lyric play with parallel structure on a lot a levels intuitively way beyond what my simple notes below suggest. Dig it.Be firm, be fair, Be sure, bewareOn your guard, take care While there's such... temp...ta... tionOne thing leads to anotherToo late to run for coverMuch too, too close for comfort nowThis is a great version by Dianne Reeves, btw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted August 4, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 First a big "thanks" to Lee for embedding that video. Several of my American friends (fellow musicians) consider Dianne Reeves one of the very best jazz singers. One of them says, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted August 5, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 5, 2010 Norman, who?Anyone remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted August 7, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 7, 2010 Channel 75 just played one of those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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