Members Ovid9 Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 No, not the show. I don't claim to know anything about theoretical physics. But this idea (distilled to idiot level for people like me) seems kinda cool. Now they'll hash it out in terse journal submissions as to whether its correct or not! http://io9.com/5694701/does-cosmic-background-radiation-reveal-the-universe-before-the-big-bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eddie Loves You! Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ovid9 Posted November 24, 2010 Author Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 To my poor non-sciencey brain there is no real difference between magic and things like say quantum mechanics. I love that gif. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spizzledude Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 The greatest scientist that has ever lived on earth trying to figure out how the universe started, no matter who he or she may be, would be like a snail trying to build a rocket ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SiCkboy78 Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 Science rules you face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Casey Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 The greatest scientist that has ever lived on earth trying to figure out how the universe started, no matter who he or she may be, would be like a snail trying to build a rocket ship. That sounds like I something I read in an email my grandmother forwarded me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sheik_Yerbouti Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 Kinda fits in with the M-theory or "membrane universe theory", too... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-theory This {censored} is so fascinating, it really makes me wish I'd have tried a lot harder in math in high school! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ovid9 Posted November 24, 2010 Author Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 Kinda fits in with the M-theory or "membrane universe theory", too... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-theory This {censored} is so fascinating, it really makes me wish I'd have tried a lot harder in math in high school! Same here man. I like that membrane universe stuff. It makes some of my favorite SF stuff have at least a slim veneer of plausibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 To my poor non-sciencey brain there is no real difference between magic and things like say quantum mechanics. I love that gif. quantum mechanics is definitely tedious mathematically, but the concepts are amazingly simple. that's how a lot of science is, really. i will await more rigorous review of penrose's hypothesis, as i am patently unqualified to review it myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrendanO Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 To my poor non-sciencey brain there is no real difference between magic and things like say quantum mechanics. I love that gif. The problem is, quack scientists think the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brandenburg Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 To my poor non-sciencey brain there is no real difference between magic and things like say quantum mechanics. I love that gif. Well Einstein said something interesting about quantum mechanics "No way would god would play such havoc with the universe" Im sure i paraphrased it badly.. but you get the idea.. Einstein had trouble wrapping his mind around it.. I really have to re-watch that doc to get his quote accurately EDIT Actually I think it was God does not play dice with the universe even though.. the link said ,he said.. god does not through dice.. Here is a link I found too.. just famous quotes by physicist http://www.rpi.edu/~schubert/Educational-resources/Quotes%20relating%20to%20engineering%20and%20science.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VanR Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 Well that's what I thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members draelyc Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 No, not the show. I don't claim to know anything about theoretical physics. But this idea (distilled to idiot level for people like me) seems kinda cool. Now they'll hash it out in terse journal submissions as to whether its correct or not! http://io9.com/5694701/does-cosmic-background-radiation-reveal-the-universe-before-the-big-bang The Hindus were right: Brahma sleeps, then wakes, then sleeps again; when Brahma's eyes are open, a universe comes into manifestation, and when Brahma rests, all things dissolve. There, we finally got it sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grubgoat Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 The universe is constantly expanding (energy for this is coming from within, I don't care how). There was no Big Bang - when the universe was that small, the rate of growth (time) was different than what we experience (and grew exponentially as the universe expanded), so when we look back at it, it looks like a sudden explosion. But since we're in it, it seems fluid, even though the same thing is happening now. Just as the universe was once smaller than we can conceive, it will someday be so large as to pop into another plane itself. (Which will seem like a Big Bang to that plane's inhabitants). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HKSblade1 Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 As long as I have been in astronomy I still love all these theories and hypothesis churning ever decade. To date they're mostly the same !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nakedzen Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 Very interesting. Kinda goes along with the things I've read about theories on dark energy and the ever accelerating pace of expansion of the Universe. (Dark energy being the accelerating force that will eventually rip even the smallest particles apart). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HKSblade1 Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 Sometimes its like a bunch of dudes debating religions! I've seen the same: Ideology Theory Random proof commentary (with no supporting proof besides an equation or pages of them) Butthurtz Butthurtz More Butthurtz Scientific breakthrough evidence that doesn't really support either pov Butthurtz Butthurtz lectures Butthurtz Butthurtz Butthurtz That's about the common cycle I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nakedzen Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 Sometimes its like a bunch of dudes debating religions! I've seen the same: Ideology Theory Random proof commentary (with no supporting proof besides an equation or pages of them) Butthurtz Butthurtz More Butthurtz Scientific breakthrough evidence that doesn't really support either pov Butthurtz Butthurtz lectures Butthurtz Butthurtz Butthurtz That's about the common cycle I've seen. That's pretty much how it's always been with science, philosophy, religion, politics and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sheik_Yerbouti Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 That's pretty much how it's always been with science, philosophy, religion, politics and everything. dingdingdingdingding... WINNAR!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shredhead7 Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 I'm not a scientist by any stretch, but the most logical explanations to me are that our universe was created out of the: 1. Collision of two bodies - universes, dimensionsor 2. The implosion of a former universe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tele-vangelist Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 2. The implosion of a former universe Black hole? If you think about it, it's kind of like a reverse big-bang. Maybe the big-bang is what happens once you've gone through a black hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cirrus Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 Man, this thread just gave me that wierd feeling I sometimes get that I'll try and probably fail to explain now: I'm just sitting at my desk and it hits me. Does anyone ever get this sudden feeling that reality has just started, and it doesn't make any sense that there's something rather than nothing? Then you think about the things that matter to you - in my case music, my family, the life I've made for myself, and it's like you're accessing all those memories for the first time, like you've only just been placed into this quaint little universe where things make sense only because they are deemed to be so? Like you've just woken up from a dream that makes so much more sense than real life but you can't remember a single thing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 I'm not a scientist by any stretch, but the most logical explanations to me are that our universe was created out of the:1. Collision of two bodies - universes, dimensionsor 2. The implosion of a former universe So what collided to make those two bodies and/or former universe that our universe collided and/or imploded from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members draelyc Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 Man, this thread just gave me that wierd feeling I sometimes get that I'll try and probably fail to explain now: I'm just sitting at my desk and it hits me. Does anyone ever get this sudden feeling that reality has just started, and it doesn't make any sense that there's something rather than nothing? Then you think about the things that matter to you - in my case music, my family, the life I've made for myself, and it's like you're accessing all those memories for the first time, like you've only just been placed into this quaint little universe where things make sense only because they are deemed to be so? Like you've just woken up from a dream that makes so much more sense than real life but you can't remember a single thing about it. To quote Morpheus, "I know exactly what you mean." Seriously, mang, I have been there many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KCTigerChief Posted November 24, 2010 Members Share Posted November 24, 2010 To the dude who said there was no big bang and the universe is just ever-expanding... While that may be true, WHERE or WHAT is the universe expanding on/in? I mean, when we think of something expanding, it's expanding in the space around it...but as far as our brains can comprehend, the universe is "IT"...I mean, at least my brain, can't even fathom what may be beyond the universe, if anything... I don't know, I'm just rambling...{censored} is fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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