Members wizaynecarter Posted March 15, 2012 Members Share Posted March 15, 2012 Izzy was the arranger, without him you had 7 minutes of mess. truth X 1,000,000 Izzy=great composer Axl=white Sun Ra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JKD Posted March 15, 2012 Members Share Posted March 15, 2012 I hate this so I must be cooler than you...seriously, WTF? I never realized how many great bands were so universally {censored} and/or hated until I joined HCAF....thanks guys, I'll go burn my CDs now. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stevetemp Posted March 15, 2012 Members Share Posted March 15, 2012 {censored} yeah another "I hate this incredibly popular band" thread. Well I hate all bands, singers, songwriters, DJ's, rappers, producers and anyone that has made anything that can be slightly interpreted or used to create music or sounds altogether. That's just how cool I am. Douche's with acoustic guitars badly covering {censored}ty pop songs to impress chicks down at the quad though are in a league all of their own though.Yep. How DARE anyone have an opinion on anything. And have the NERVE to discuss it on a.....discussion message board. SHEESH! New rule from Kev369. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything!{HCAF instantly sinks into the dismal abyss darkness and loneliness like ESP and bolt-on Les Paul forums} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stevetemp Posted March 15, 2012 Members Share Posted March 15, 2012 I hate this so I must be cooler than you...seriously, WTF? I never realized how many great bands were so universally {censored} and/or hated until I joined HCAF....thanks guys, I'll go burn my CDs now. :yes: I have found that, usually....the less public acceptance of a band the more I enjoy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesfella Posted March 20, 2012 Members Share Posted March 20, 2012 That's funny, I think they're awesome (the lineup up until 1993 that is). If you're into rock in general it's pretty much impossible to hate on their first album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted March 20, 2012 Members Share Posted March 20, 2012 what really sucks is gnr was the last great rock n roll band.everything since has been contrived drivel that sounds like an acdc or led zeppelin cover band or is just too {censored}ing commercial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reverse Entropy Posted March 20, 2012 Members Share Posted March 20, 2012 Which Foghat do you have? Girls To Chat and Boys To Bounce is great! Boogie Motel a close 2nd. ""I just wanna make love to you/ Slow ride"? Not so much. Yeah, mentioning Axl and Lonesome Dave in the same breath made me twitch. Unfortunately they're known for their weakest songs. I just told myself that the entire band died after Appetite as a result of a bizarre incident where enraged Canadians murdered them during a concert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DoubleBarrel Posted March 20, 2012 Members Share Posted March 20, 2012 Pearljam is a more important band in Rock history. Not saying they're the best, just saying they shaped the sound of modern music more.umm.......NO not even remotely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DoubleBarrel Posted March 20, 2012 Members Share Posted March 20, 2012 what really sucks is gnr was the last great rock n roll band. I keep hearing this, and I just don't see it or agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DoubleBarrel Posted March 20, 2012 Members Share Posted March 20, 2012 Which Foghat do you have? Girls To Chat and Boys To Bounce is great! Boogie Motel a close 2nd. ""I just wanna make love to you/ Slow ride"? Not so much. But nothin beats Foghat Live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesfella Posted March 20, 2012 Members Share Posted March 20, 2012 what really sucks is gnr was the last great rock n roll band.everything since has been contrived drivel that sounds like an acdc or led zeppelin cover band or is just too {censored}ing commercial. This is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundgardener75 Posted March 20, 2012 Members Share Posted March 20, 2012 As for GnR, one great album and a few good songs off the rest. GnR destroyed hair metal, not Seattle, but Pearljam is a more important band in Rock history. Not saying they're the best, just saying they shaped the sound of modern music more. Disagreed. GN'R survived the Seattle Breakout in the early 90's whether you like it or not. Pearl Jam may have spawned some goddawful bands that still lingers today (see Creed), but important? They're the kings of cluster{censored} B-sides. And I like PJ mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted March 20, 2012 Members Share Posted March 20, 2012 eyehate G&R . Cant stand Axle's voice. Sounds like Janice Joplin vomiting up scrambled eggs & broken glass. Slash sucks too. Cant get into the cardboard guitar sound & that dog-{censored} wah tone. (and the tophat & hair in the face thing...the poses with the cig hangin out his mouth....cheese.left over 80's hairspray douchebags disguised with attitude. Hated them then. Hate them now. It's posts like this that make me say, "Oh, this person has no idea what the {censored} they're talking about." kinda like most of this thread. It's almost physically hard to read the dumb {censored} you morons post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DoubleBarrel Posted March 20, 2012 Members Share Posted March 20, 2012 Pearl Jam may have spawned some goddawful bands that still lingers today (see Creed), but important? They're the kings of cluster{censored} B-sides. And I like PJ mind you. +1 gazillion billion. Especially the "Creed" part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheRymanChu Posted March 20, 2012 Members Share Posted March 20, 2012 Disagreed. GN'R survived the Seattle Breakout in the early 90's whether you like it or not. I'm not sure why you're disagreeing with me. I said GnR destroyed Hair Metal. They were one of the few 80s bands who survived the Grunge breakout. That being said Use Your Illusion came out in September of 1991 before Grunge was fully in swing. Spaghetti Incident came out in 1993 and was considered a failure by the record company, and Chinese Democracy didn't come out until 2008. My point was that from 1993 to 1997, you couldn't put on rock radio without hearing a band with some element from Pearljam, and that effect still lingers even until today. I'm not a huge fan of either band, though there are good songs to be found from both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DoubleBarrel Posted March 20, 2012 Members Share Posted March 20, 2012 My point was that from 1993 to 1997, you couldn't put on rock radio without hearing a band with some element from Nirvana, and that effect still lingers even until today. I'm not a huge fan of either band, though there are good songs to be found from both. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheRymanChu Posted March 20, 2012 Members Share Posted March 20, 2012 For the record, Nirvana did not invent Grunge or the Seattle sound. That's like crediting Motley Crue or Bon Jovi for inventing Hair Metal because they had the biggest selling albums. I don't hear as many people trying to sing like Cobain as Vedder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members draelyc Posted March 20, 2012 Members Share Posted March 20, 2012 It's posts like this that make me say, "Oh, this person has no idea what the {censored} they're talking about." kinda like most of this thread. It's almost physically hard to read the dumb {censored} you morons post. Is it fundamentals, bitches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DoubleBarrel Posted March 20, 2012 Members Share Posted March 20, 2012 see.........thus is why I think GnR Sucks...........listen to this horrible crap[video=youtube;NHyl04-ytH8] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ComOp Posted March 20, 2012 Members Share Posted March 20, 2012 I was in high school when GnR broke. I had that first album and listened to it hundreds of times. Very catchy hooky songs that just stuck in your head. I haven't felt the need to listen to it in years though. It got killed by radio and MTV. Completely over exposed. I'd be just fine with never hearing it again, I have heard their best songs enough to last me through five lifetimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted March 20, 2012 Members Share Posted March 20, 2012 that's pretty bad, but kiss is still worse. Kw5oJoUYTb8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesfella Posted March 21, 2012 Members Share Posted March 21, 2012 Disagreed. GN'R survived the Seattle Breakout in the early 90's whether you like it or not.Pearl Jam may have spawned some goddawful bands that still lingers today (see Creed), but important? They're the kings of cluster{censored} B-sides. And I like PJ mind you. Exactly. Let's be honest. We haven't had a decent rock band for a long, long time. To me, Guns was the last real one that had all the elements that a good rock band should have. I'm talking past tense, because Guns 'n Roses is 1985-1993 to me. There was something very, very exciting about them and their music that I haven't seen since. I never really got into grunge. I always found it too negative-minded and I didn't like the simplicity of it. It's kind of the same kind of deal as punk, but it's darker and slower. I'll also never understand why being a {censored}ty guitar player is seems to be viewed as a good thing in this scene. I remember seeing several interviews where some guys in these grunge bands were talking {censored} and making fun of great players. And Kurt Cobain with his "{censored} Elvis" on his guitar... If you want to talk overrated, there's your guy. I didn't lose any sleep when that {censored}ing asshole blew his {censored}ing brains out. It's posts like this that make me say, "Oh, this person has no idea what the {censored} they're talking about." kinda like most of this thread. It's almost physically hard to read the dumb {censored} you morons post. Agreed. They might not be your thing, but it's an insult to compare them to "hair bands" bands like Poison. They got popular because they were the only ones that played 70's no-bull{censored} rock in the 80's. Slash has created some of the most kick-ass melodic solo's I've ever heard. Again, if you're into rock (or guitar) in general, it's pretty hard to hate on the guy. [video=youtube;-9e77IrHBsw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9e77IrHBsw Listen to the guitar work on this track and tell me again the guy sucks. I'm especially diggin' the solo here, but the slide-guitar stuff is cool as hell, too. The guy was {censored}ed up on drugs and booze 99% of the time when he was in GnR, so it's easy to find live footage where he sounds {censored}ty. Look into some recent live stuff and you'll find he sounds way, way better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members newholland Posted March 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 21, 2012 Listen to the guitar work on this track and tell me again the guy sucks. I'm especially diggin' the solo here, but the slide-guitar stuff is cool as hell, too. The guy was {censored}ed up on drugs and booze 99% of the time when he was in GnR, so it's easy to find live footage where he sounds {censored}ty. Look into some recent live stuff and you'll find he sounds way, way better. meh. i disagree. didn't think much of their sound, nor their comedic comic book badboy image. it was just another shadow of glam in my eyes. they were undoubtedly fine musicians, and did the rock thing- which is admirable, but they were also pretty LA. they may've been LESS bull{censored}, but LA is rife with bull{censored}, and they were still from the same cesspool. coulda been they believed that they were LA badboys, coulda been that they had their image fabricated by a record company. either way, still seems pretty contrived to me. is what it is. i'm glad somebody liked it, but it wasn't for me. i still call bull{censored} on axl rose, regardless of any image crap. i just can't take his singing-- and i speculate that a longtailed cat in a roomfull of old men in rocking chairs would probably yield similar results given enough time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rushtallica Posted March 21, 2012 Members Share Posted March 21, 2012 Listen to the guitar work on this track and tell me again the guy sucks. I'm especially diggin' the solo here, but the slide-guitar stuff is cool as hell, too. The guy was {censored}ed up on drugs and booze 99% of the time when he was in GnR, so it's easy to find live footage where he sounds {censored}ty. Look into some recent live stuff and you'll find he sounds way, way better. I'm not sure many look down much on Slash, and I think he's a good guitar player and that the band minus vocals was very good. But I agree with those who can't get into Axl's vocals. It's like Robert Plant permanently having a very off-night. But I know my favorite band's vocals also aren't for everyone. It's all good for those who get something from the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vaguelee Posted March 21, 2012 Members Share Posted March 21, 2012 My sentiments exactly - GNR FTL Welp, the arbiter of good taste has spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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