Members Cliff Fiscal Posted October 7, 2012 Members Share Posted October 7, 2012 go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members esizer Posted October 7, 2012 Members Share Posted October 7, 2012 I have heard good things about blackstars but haven't personally played one. I my Jet City head though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grunge782 Posted October 7, 2012 Members Share Posted October 7, 2012 Blackstar has a more modern hard rock sound, where as jet city gets that soldano raw crunch that is thick in the mids. The blackstar ht-20 and up have much better cleans than the jet city and I would say that the blackstar amps are more versatile as well for crunch tones. I do think the jet city amps take drive pedals better though. That said you will see people come in and say neither, go with a Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 67mike Posted October 7, 2012 Members Share Posted October 7, 2012 Have had both...both are good. The Jet City is AWESOME with some decent tubes.......so I vote Jet City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nerine Posted October 7, 2012 Members Share Posted October 7, 2012 I would take any Jet City over any Blackstar. I hate Blackstar amps. I like absolutely nothing about them. They sound bland as fuck to boot. I don't like their name, logo, aggressive marketing, generic tone, jack of all nature, HR department, pricing, people that run the company, their endorsees, the cosmetics, the overall vibe of the amps. I also don't like the way they record, their reliability, etc etc etc. just goes on. I'd take a JCA100HDM over any shitty Blackstar. There is more tone in a JCA20H than any of Blackstars amps channels combined. Fuck Blackstar. I despise them. *spits* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kardula Posted October 7, 2012 Members Share Posted October 7, 2012 JC for me, the blackstars just didn't seem that impressive whereas the jet citys are a really good singe channel amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grunge782 Posted October 7, 2012 Members Share Posted October 7, 2012 I would take any Jet City over any Blackstar. I hate Blackstar amps. I like absolutely nothing about them. They sound bland as fuck to boot. I don't like their name, logo, aggressive marketing, generic tone, jack of all nature, HR department, pricing, people that run the company, their endorsees, the cosmetics, the overall vibe of the amps. I also don't like the way they record, their reliability, etc etc etc. just goes on. I'd take a JCA100HDM over any shitty Blackstar. There is more tone in a JCA20H than any of Blackstars amps channels combined. Fuck Blackstar. I despise them. *spits* Explain Some people want more than just a good crunch tone. If I was playing metal or needed good cleans I undoubtedly would take one of the higher wattage blackstars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Razsan Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Blackstar vote here. Much better high gain sounds and has a very nice clean channel in the bigger amps. (HT5 clean is a little bland)Jet city seems to sound okay but needs a boost for solos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yarbicus Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Both are solid. Obviously, JCA get my vote because the basic "crunch" channel is absolutely brilliant. The Soldano overdrive channel is just thick and beautiful, too. Blackstar is great but they sound more "generic" to me. Not bad at any point, just don't impress me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GRIMESPACE Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Had a Blackstar 20 head that I paid over $400 for - I originally wanted a JCA22H last summer, but got tired of waiting. Couldn't tame the excessive gain and found it way too dark for my tastes. Wound up taking it back and getting a JCA50H for almost the same money. A tube change and rebias, and I'm absolutely at home with it. Still a bit higher gain than I care for, but kicks ass for me. Pretty straightforward modding capability, too, which wasn't even a realistic possibility with the (hybrid?) Blackstar. JCA all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neilrocks25 Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 I like both, I have the jet city and its a great amp. The 20 watters are much better with a depth mod though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jshaffer20 Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 I havent had much time with JC stuff but I love my Blackstar amps So far I have owned the HT5, 20 and 60. I play the HT20 the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Jet City - A former Blackstar owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 JCA by a mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oops-A-Paisley Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Not played Jet City, all the demos I've seen and heard they sound great Blackstar has some hate here, and some that like. I've liked the HT40 when I've used it, works for me ! purchased to cover rehearsals and specifically one regular gig in the local pub where Marshall + 4x12 = Drama episodes However... In comparison to the little DT25 that's just arrived I can see immediately what is missing. Blackstar make a good gigable product with as many have said their own sound it is dark but it's also a very pleasing no ice picky highs just overall a balanced gain channel and a useable clean channel. What it lacks is character and therefor IMO the inspiration to play and create is muted ...there I've said it ..basically I'm agreeing with Nerine FFS :mad: oh and the gain channel never really cleans up that well..like a good Marshall, it lacks the spank in the treble so it simply can't do it ...good job it has clean channel DT25 full gain metall screaming rage mode ...wind back on vol clean and spanky,.. kin ell Try a JCA (or a DT25) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neilrocks25 Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Is the line6 DT25 that good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oops-A-Paisley Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Is the line6 DT25 that good? Kills the blackstar and hides the body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jshaffer20 Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 I would take any Jet City over any Blackstar. I hate Blackstar amps. I like absolutely nothing about them. They sound bland as fuck to boot. I don't like their name, logo, aggressive marketing, generic tone, jack of all nature, HR department, pricing, people that run the company, their endorsees, the cosmetics, the overall vibe of the amps. I also don't like the way they record, their reliability, etc etc etc. just goes on. I'd take a JCA100HDM over any shitty Blackstar. There is more tone in a JCA20H than any of Blackstars amps channels combined. Fuck Blackstar. I despise them. *spits* Says the guy that buys $3K amps, says the amp is the best thing ever, only to turn around and say it sucks and sell it two weeks later Is there anything you like Nerine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 3volved Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Neither...I'll be selling my Blackstar gear here very very soon. The cleans were good, but the whole thing left me still wanting something more. I found it though, which is great news for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Razsan Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 To the OP. You'll never get a definitive answer here unless you describe what you're looking for. Jet City's and Line 6 products don't kill anything, let alone a Blackstar...(the inverse is also true for Blackstar) but all of these amps serve a purpose depending on application. For me the Blackstars get a great lead tone and react to my guitar's volume control well. The Jet City is useless for me...but that's just me. I sold an HT20 to a friend and the first thing he did was put lower gain tubes in...I'd NEVER do that...but again, that's just me.So I think the bottom line is that most of these inexpensive amps will do some things well and others not so good. You pick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jds22 Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Not played Jet City, all the demos I've seen and heard they sound great Blackstar has some hate here, and some that like. I've liked the HT40 when I've used it, works for me ! purchased to cover rehearsals and specifically one regular gig in the local pub where Marshall + 4x12 = Drama episodes However... In comparison to the little DT25 that's just arrived I can see immediately what is missing. Blackstar make a good gigable product with as many have said their own sound it is dark but it's also a very pleasing no ice picky highs just overall a balanced gain channel and a useable clean channel. What it lacks is character and therefor IMO the inspiration to play and create is muted ...there I've said it ..basically I'm agreeing with Nerine FFS :mad: oh and the gain channel never really cleans up that well..like a good Marshall, it lacks the spank in the treble so it simply can't do it ...good job it has clean channel DT25 full gain metall screaming rage mode ...wind back on vol clean and spanky,.. kin ell Try a JCA (or a DT25) Need more info on the DT25. I'm in the market for a new amp and am pretty close to pulling the trigger on one of the new Marshall DSLs, the 40 watt combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Have both the Blackstar HT-5 and the Jet City JCA20. Both a great heads but sound very different. Would love to get my hands on the 100 watt versions of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oops-A-Paisley Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Need more info on the DT25. I'm in the market for a new amp and am pretty close to pulling the trigger on one of the new Marshall DSLs, the 40 watt combo. sounds great, the clean is really full bell like and sweet ..think vintage cool, crank up the Marshall/plexi/whatever model and its instant ACDC wind it down Kossof ..its' just right , the vox channel is sort of not my thing, but I'm diggin it , reminds me of the Little Cornford I had The gainier channel is tight and controlled and percussive really nice to play very rich distortion, more depth than the Blackstar more top end..I've got the little combo and there's plenty of bass ..astonishing amp really for what I paid, I'm seriuosly happy with it. Dont want to post this, because Chappers & shitstorm but wtf[video=youtube;I9E2eXXwW28] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jds22 Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Thanks oops. I really need to sit down with one of these before I make any decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bdubbs Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 I gig a blackstart HT-100 for almost two years now. Thing has been solid so far. I bought a JCA20 and it sounded pretty darn good at home. But, got lost in the mix with a band. It wasn't a volume thing as I could turn it up to be heard, but something didn't jive right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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