Members RSBro Posted December 13, 2012 Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 LOL My taxes are skyrocketing in my county due to unfunded liabilities and legacy costs - sweetheart deals given to the unions. So when you want fiscal responsiblity you also wants kids to go hungry, ("the old what about the children'") gotta love the rational but its not unexpected, yeaaa they want children to starve Taxes are NOT solving the issues we are having, people like you who buy into the politicians bull{censored} lines help bolster these assholes in D.C. These jerkoffs spend $$$ on every pet project, states are in fiscal mess and of course whats the solution......?? More taxes of course? Sure thats worked so well, lets keep doing it, do it again - Wash, Rinse, Repeat .... And then you get upset at people who want Washngton DC to be accountable and pay its bills just like all of us have to do, they are the problem? for real? he sez "tea-baggers" like it's 2007 or something we probably should take him very srs i wonder if he even lifts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rear Naked Posted December 13, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 are you saying you'd like to work at a place where your boss was a dick and demanded bjs from you and your wife? How dumb are you? Srs question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stevetemp Posted December 13, 2012 Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 Contrary to tea-bagger philosophy "GREED IS NOT GOOD". Self-centered individuals and corporations are a bane on the planet and its societies. Whining about your taxes while kids go hungry is vile. Denying those who have served a decent pension for decades of service is ludicrous. Raking in massive profits and handing out huge bonus' while lobbying to keep minimum wage levels down and treating workers like dirt is typical corporate practice. What goes around comes around tea-baggers.+3 cool points for using "teabagger"!What makes you think "GREED" is ONLY a "teabagging" philosophy? Isn't Hollywood into the whole "greed" thing too? Do Democrat senators refuse graft and donate their salries to charity?I get your underlying message...and I even said as much earlier....but LOL at making it SO politically polarized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rear Naked Posted December 13, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 Hey guys havn't you heard that greed and self-centered behavior is a new phenomenom among businessmen and people in general? It all started in the 70s, and is responsible for most of America's ills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DoubleBarrel Posted December 13, 2012 Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 so yes then. cool. And that's why I am your boss. So send your wife over tonight. but if she's on the rag, get out yer knee pads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted December 13, 2012 Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 Hey guys havn't you heard that greed and self-centered behavior is a new phenomenom among businessmen and people in general? It all started in the 70s, and is responsible for most of America's ills. yeah,WHYTE BIZNESSMEN!!!!!!!!!!!! :OMG: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stevetemp Posted December 13, 2012 Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 No, they are not risking their lives. Firefighters USED to risk their lives on a routine basis, but they have shown that they are living lives as long as an office job worker these days. Even during 9/11, more office workers died than police or fire. Police, by in large, will become criminals or apathetic in 10 years time if they are on the beat. Bad cops cannot get fired and can break the laws they enforce on the public without recourse. Teachers...there are some good ones out there, but I think that the majority do the same thing that cops do: they lose their motivation to teach for whatever reason and become union thugs. The SEIU is so {censored}ing destructive, you can't even imagine. Have you seen "Waiting for Superman"? Incredible documentary. The solution is not better benefits, but privatization. Dirty word and not easy to implement, but if performance is required, actually being at risk for not performing is the only way to guarantee motivation. We'll see. When you need a firefighter or police.....just tell them not to risk their life for you. I believe that your post is bad....negative and completely unwarranted...disingenuous even. Of COURSE more "office workers died on 9/11" than firefighters. Simple privatizing is NOT necessarily the end all solution. You'll need to move that money out of tax-based and into the pockets of people. It's not gonna work for a majority of families. Pure performance-based pay is also not the entire solution. If you think that...you just have no clue what real life education is like. These teachers sometimes get just really bad kids, and they get bad parents too. Do you know what "inclusion" is? Parents don't want their...."special needs" child separated from the truly gifted and talented students. This bogs down the whole teaching structure. Give a good teacher just a few of these challenging students...and you are going to take away their pay? Poor grades are NOT always the fault of the instructor. So then...how do you account for that? What kind of costly administration and assessment needs added? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Charlie_Sheen Posted December 13, 2012 Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 How dumb are you?Srs question. i am over 9000 dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rear Naked Posted December 13, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 i am over 9000 dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rear Naked Posted December 13, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 I like privatization + vouchers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theAntihero Posted December 13, 2012 Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 As usual you guys get so wrapped up in the wrong thing, that you missed what really happened. Right to work is a lie and should be called right to fire. This overturns almost all of the labor protection laws, and allows employers to fire an employee without or without cause. Leaving the employee without recourse. That means they can fire you at any time for any reason, or no reason, and there's nothing you or the union can do about it. no matter how good you are at your job................ Boss doesn't like you.............FU you're fired Boss is on period..............FU you're fired Boss wants so sleep with your wife, but you won't let him..........FU You're fired Boss want a BJ from you, but you won't do it...................FU You're fired Boss thinks your too close to retirement/pension................FU you're fired Boss doesn't like that you are (pick one or more) gay/straight/white/ethnic/pregnant/woman/man/married/single/ugly/fat/skinny/hot/bald/old/young/etc.......FU you're fired And even if you can prove that it was actually one of those reasons why you were fired. It doesn't matter because it's a right to work state and you have no recourse. And why exactly would you want to keep a job if your boss was this much of a dick? It doesnt seem like something you'd really want to fight for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DoubleBarrel Posted December 13, 2012 Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 And why exactly would you want to keep a job if your boss was this much of a dick? It doesnt seem like something you'd really want to fight for. You are even dumber than Charlie Sheen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Charlie_Sheen Posted December 13, 2012 Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 people want the right-to-work for a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members la0tsu Posted December 13, 2012 Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 And why exactly would you want to keep a job if your boss was this much of a dick? So I can pay my mortgage and not get thrown out on the street with my three year old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members la0tsu Posted December 13, 2012 Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 No, they are not risking their lives. Firefighters USED to risk their lives on a routine basis, but they have shown that they are living lives as long as an office job worker these days. Even during 9/11, more office workers died than police or fire. How many of those office workers went into WTC after it was hit by those planes? Any office worker who was there would have stayed home had they known what was going to happen. FDNY went in even though it had already happen. You can go {censored} yourself if you think firefighters don't risk their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DoubleBarrel Posted December 13, 2012 Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 Originally Posted by Charlie_Sheen I want the right-to-work for dick. Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Charlie_Sheen Posted December 13, 2012 Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paul88lx Posted December 13, 2012 Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 This thread is lolol.Dicky Sofa is probably the most right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marshallnoise Posted December 13, 2012 Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 Originally Posted by Stevetemp We'll see. When you need a firefighter or police.....just tell them not to risk their life for you. I believe that your post is bad....negative and completely unwarranted...disingenuous even. Of COURSE more "office workers died on 9/11" than firefighters. Simple privatizing is NOT necessarily the end all solution. You'll need to move that money out of tax-based and into the pockets of people. It's not gonna work for a majority of families. Pure performance-based pay is also not the entire solution. If you think that...you just have no clue what real life education is like. These teachers sometimes get just really bad kids, and they get bad parents too. Do you know what "inclusion" is? Parents don't want their...."special needs" child separated from the truly gifted and talented students. This bogs down the whole teaching structure. Give a good teacher just a few of these challenging students...and you are going to take away their pay? Poor grades are NOT always the fault of the instructor. So then...how do you account for that? What kind of costly administration and assessment needs added? Fortunately, this being a free country, you can criticize my post and I can post it in the first place. I know acutely that when seconds count, the cops are only minutes away. If you looked at what firefighters did every single day, 90% of it is looking at porn at the fire house and running out with the lights on to get steaks for the grill. Then there is a smattering of showing up for a minor fender bender with all lights flared up. Heck, half of the time they are making phone calls for the side businesses they run and have started because of the work schedule they have crafted out (freeing up 4 days a week but making $80K a year in 3 days). The police and fire were not unsung heroes they once were, today they are mercenaries and demand a hell of a lot for their "service." As far as education and performance based pay, I get it. 85% of kids that these teachers are educating are functionally retarded or their parents don't even care that they exist. They would obviously drop scores. Which is exactly why the system of "one size fits all" that all government institutions function within is inherently incapable of teaching all children in the best ways possible. This further drives the need for private, specialized schools. Private schools can test kids and accept kids with certain skill sets or lacking certain skill sets and then say yes or no for admission. When some kid can't get in, but they still need an education, someone will open up another private school with another niche that might be able to deal with tougher kids. So on and so forth. But the idea that one school can teach all those types of kids relatively the same way, EFFICIENTLY, is just insane. Especially with the federal government and their restrictions on how you deal with kids and what can/can't be taught, etc. All I am saying is that whatever system we have now, it isn't working. So the SEIU & Teachers Unions propping up the failed institution and continuing to entrench the system in the same failures is part of the problem. They constantly chant that smaller classroom sizes mean better education because they can devote more time to each kid. Well, as you pointed out, only the students who want to learn will learn. This is a grab it if you want it world, and the government and teachers unions are juxtaposed to it 100% because they can hide behind the systemic failures and just ask for more money to throw at the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marshallnoise Posted December 13, 2012 Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 Originally Posted by la0tsu How many of those office workers went into WTC after it was hit by those planes? Any office worker who was there would have stayed home had they known what was going to happen. FDNY went in even though it had already happen. You can go {censored} yourself if you think firefighters don't risk their lives. Ok, {censored}ed myself. Happy? On a day to day basis, they don't risk their lives. Heroes don't broadcast it. Mercenaries do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rear Naked Posted December 13, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 Originally Posted by marshallnoise Fortunately, this being a free country, you can criticize my post and I can post it in the first place. I know acutely that when seconds count, the cops are only minutes away. If you looked at what firefighters did every single day, 90% of it is looking at porn at the fire house and running out with the lights on to get steaks for the grill. Then there is a smattering of showing up for a minor fender bender with all lights flared up. Heck, half of the time they are making phone calls for the side businesses they run and have started because of the work schedule they have crafted out (freeing up 4 days a week but making $80K a year in 3 days). The police and fire were not unsung heroes they once were, today they are mercenaries and demand a hell of a lot for their "service." my father is a firefighter and this is all true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Viesczy Posted December 13, 2012 Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 Originally Posted by Johnny'sGotTheBlues When they're all gone you'll know why they were needed in the first place. Johnny is right. Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rear Naked Posted December 13, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 Without unions, we will go back to 1700's working conditions.Not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theAntihero Posted December 13, 2012 Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 Originally Posted by la0tsu So I can pay my mortgage and not get thrown out on the street with my three year old? Jobs, there are more than one. My god is everyone so terrified of finding a new job? I understand revenge and wanting whats right but if your boss is this bad what exactly are you winning here? The right to make money for a guy that hates you? Even if its just your immediate superior if the guy is that bad chances are his bosses know it and probably dont care thus meaning you make different bastards more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members la0tsu Posted December 13, 2012 Members Share Posted December 13, 2012 Originally Posted by marshallnoise Ok, {censored}ed myself. Happy? I was happy before. Now I'm ecstatic. On a day to day basis, they don't risk their lives. So? They do when it matters. Heroes don't broadcast it. Mercenaries do. Who's broadcasting anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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