Members Phrophus Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 A gun control debate cheapens this and makes it appear that you care more about your agenda than about the victims. Regardless of which agenda you're pushing. Now's not the time to drag out your soap box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gary Cohn Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 These are the reasons my lady and I are seriously considering raising kids in her Native lands.{censored} like this just doesn't happen in Sweden. {censored}in christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OverDriven Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by knucklefux why is it so easy for these whackos to get into the buildings? if this guy's plan was to go in and kill as many people as he could and then off himself, the presence of a gun wouldn't matter because he could just as easily do a suicide bomb. oh, and i'm with everyone else that can't fathom this tragedy. i simply can't imagine being in a place where killing a bunch of kindergartners is a possibility. I think the answer is that there is no answer. When things like this happen, everyone's first instinct is to try to find a way to fix it. The problem is that what you're trying to fix is destructive human nature, and that's like trying to keep the sun from rising in the morning. Evil people will do things like this, probably for as long as the human race is around. The only way to truly stop it is to imprison everyone on earth so that they physically cannot hurt one another, and then you've become worse than the evil you're fighting in the first place. There just isn't an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dolf Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by OverDriven I think the answer is that there is no answer. When things like this happen, everyone's first instinct is to try to find a way to fix it. The problem is that what you're trying to fix is destructive human nature, and that's like trying to keep the sun from rising in the morning. Evil people will do things like this, probably for as long as the human race is around. The only way to truly stop it is to imprison everyone on earth so that they physically cannot hurt one another, and then you've become worse than the evil you're fighting in the first place. There just isn't an answer. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OverDriven Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by Gary Cohn These are the reasons my lady and I are seriously considering raising kids in her Native lands. {censored} like this just doesn't happen in Sweden. {censored}in christ Exactly what people said about Norway. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hotcakes Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by Cropduster Funny enough, that will be coming now it will be against the law for criminals to carry guns Sorry, I took the bait. You took the wrong bait. He said culture. This is so {censored}ed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rear Naked Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by SnowStorm They should just shoot this guy in the head. maybe they should make sure its a shooter and not just a guy who was picking up his kid for a dentist appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SnowStorm Posted December 14, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by knucklefux why is it so easy for these whackos to get into the buildings? if this guy's plan was to go in and kill as many people as he could and then off himself, the presence of a gun wouldn't matter because he could just as easily do a suicide bomb. oh, and i'm with everyone else that can't fathom this tragedy. i simply can't imagine being in a place mentally where killing a bunch of kindergartners is a possibility. The bolded part. I think they may need stricter security at schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members atrox Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 My brother and his family live in Newtown. Luckily, my Nieces go to a different Elementary School there. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hotcakes Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by OverDriven Exactly what people said about Norway. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik You can find an example here and there for any country if you look hard enough. It's an epidemic here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gary Cohn Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by OverDriven Exactly what people said about Norway. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik Except the town is more of a village in Sweden. Not a city like Stockholm. :boomshakalaka: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rear Naked Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by Hotcakes You can find an example here and there for any country if you look hard enough. It's an epidemic here. Its a big country though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nitrous2400 Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 I've been through Newtown a few times since I work in Bridgeport often. I honestly can't imagine what the families of the children are going through. Poor kids, poor families. Why the hell would you shoot innocent children? I can't imagine how terrible the holidays will be for them. I was just out xmas shopping and heard about this, I bet some of those parents were out buying gifts for their kids that might not have made it. I heard all the families were waiting to pickup kids at the firehouse and a few got the worst news possible. My thoughts and prayers go out to them, this is literally the worst thing I've ever heard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SnowStorm Posted December 14, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by Rear Naked maybe they should make sure its a shooter and not just a guy who was picking up his kid for a dentist appointment. Yes exactly and then shoot him in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dparr Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by Phrophus A gun control debate cheapens this and makes it appear that you care more about your agenda than about the victims. Regardless of which agenda you're pushing. Now's not the time to drag out your soap box. I jost pisses me off when shootings like this happen. And the fact that many of the deaths can and could be prevented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by OverDriven I think the answer is that there is no answer. When things like this happen, everyone's first instinct is to try to find a way to fix it. The problem is that what you're trying to fix is destructive human nature, and that's like trying to keep the sun from rising in the morning. Evil people will do things like this, probably for as long as the human race is around. The only way to truly stop it is to imprison everyone on earth so that they physically cannot hurt one another, and then you've become worse than the evil you're fighting in the first place. There just isn't an answer. maybe i should have worded it differently... why wasn't there better security? locked doors, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OverDriven Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by SnowStorm The bolded part. I think they may need stricter security at schools. Burn the school down. Blow the school up. Wait in the parking lot with an automatic rifle and wait for the kids to pour out at the end of the day. Like I said, for every way you block them, they will find another. Can you really imagine a psychopath bent on killing children going "Oh darn - door is locked. I guess I won't kill these kids after all."? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members greg apocalypse Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Not sure what you weiners are arguing over, but god damn. Heart goes out to those kids, families. I can't imagine my best friend being killed at school. As a child, in a way, that's your "place." All your friends, your teacher, it's where you spend so much of your time, it's where you grow. Can't imagine what they're feeling now and how this will affect them for years to come. Just awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Festus Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by dparr America has no gun control. This is just sick. Columbine was a gun free zone. Virginia Tech was a gun free zone. And this school in CT was a gun free zone. 'Gun control' is in place at our schools. That means everyone there is defenseless...a sitting duck when some lunatic goes on a killing spree. Why don't you put a sign in your front yard that says 'I have no guns. Guns are bad. Guns kill people.'? Easy--you'd be marking yourself as an easy target for someone who wants to rape, murder, or steal. That's pretty much what our schools have done. If one or more school employees was carrying, perhaps some innocent lives could have been saved. Why not just ban public schools? They keep getting kids killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Scepter Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by dparr This American gun culture needa to come to a end. Exactly, we shouldn't blame the shooter, it was the gun that walked into that school and shot innocent people Let's also get rid of cars, cars kill more people than guns, or fast food, or cigarettes, booze. Let's just ban everything that could possibly bring harm/death and we'll let you decide for the rest of us what those things are Maybe, you can ban free speech so we don't have to read your full of {censored} responses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Space coyote Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by almightycrunch Yup, need to start shooting these guys right in the head when they catch them, {censored} these people, they serve no purpose in society. If you cant be responsible and a positive contributor to society, then off with your head, commit a crime with a weapon, off with your head. go. I agree to a point, but I really wish they would take these guys alive, for one thing it helps to answer peoples questions, then he should be made to be miserable for the rest of his life, death is too easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kerouac Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by MattACaster Regardless of how you feel about this issue, this isn't the place for it. This doesn't need to turn into a debate. Disagree. We're always told it's not the place for it and it's a conversation to have later, but it never happens. We just wait around for the next tragedy and the cycle starts all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by OverDriven Burn the school down. Blow the school up. Wait in the parking lot with an automatic rifle and wait for the kids to pour out at the end of the day. Like I said, for every way you block them, they will find another. Can you really imagine a psychopath bent on killing children going "Oh darn - door is locked. I guess I won't kill these kids after all."? valid point, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shask Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 So sad I went to a high school yesterday where they had to take my picture, and swipe my drivers license to run a background check just to get in the front door. I thought it was kind of crazy, but after events like this, I see more of that coming.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the_gunslinger Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Jesus Christ. Two incident's in one week? This {censored} is getting out of hand and it just makes me sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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