Members CloverdaleBand Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 This time over Guitar Hero and RockBand. First PRS, now this. Too bad they can't make quality guitars for a reasonable price as well as they can file legal actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cardude6987 Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 Why are they sueing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members danbronson Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 This time over Guitar Hero and RockBand. First PRS, now this. Too bad they can't make quality guitars for a reasonable price as well as they can file legal actions. Actually they can't sue very well either. They eventually lost to PRS (thank god) and from all I've read they don't have much of a case on this one either. Especially taking on multiple companies that are larger than Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members larry50 Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 Why are they sueing? Gibson claims the two games violate existing Gibson patents on creating virtual music through imput devices such as used in both games. A lot of people think this is just a negotiating ploy on new license terms especially re: Activision, where they are probably negotiating license rights to GH IV as we speak. In the case of Activision, Activision actually sued Gibson first, preempting Gibson, by filing an equitable action in Federal District Court seeking what is known as "Declaratory Relief" that is, seeking a declaration of rights from the court to the effect that GH does not violate any existing valid Gibson patent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thrashmetl Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 ya, they're suing Activision (creator of Guitar Hero) who they've already give a license to make guitars that look like Les Pauls and Explorers, etc. They're suing them because in 99 Gibson took out a patent on using their guitars in a "simulated performance setting" and they want Activision to get this license as well. Activision says no on the basis that they've had the license to make the Guitar Hero Gibson guitars for more than 3 years which gives them implied consent for this other patent. They have also filed suit against Walmart, Target, etc (retailers of Guitar Hero) to try to get them to stop selling the product until Activision gets this license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kid Klash Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 "Gibson Sues Wal-Mart, Other Majors, Over 'Guitar Hero'On Mar. 20, Gibson Guitar Corp. sued Wal-Mart and five other mass merchandise chains selling the Activision "Guitar Hero" video game, claiming it violates a Gibson-held patent. The federal lawsuit, filed Mar. 17, calls for Wal-Mart, Target, Kmart, Amazon.com, GameStop, and Toys "R" Us to stop selling the popular game. As reported in last week's MMR Update, Gibson has already attempted to stop Activision from selling all versions of the game, saying it too closely resembles a Gibson virtual-reality patent from 1999. Activision subsequently filed suit asking a federal judge to declare the game does not violate the Gibson patent.The 1999 Gibson patent is for a product that allows the user to simulate participation in a concert by playing an instrument and wearing a headset with 3-D display and audio speakers."What a bunch of wankers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carbohydrates Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 Haha, they're suing stores that sell the game? That's amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Johnny Z Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 This time over Guitar Hero and RockBand. First PRS, now this. Too bad they can't make quality guitars for a reasonable price as well as they can file legal actions. Well the problem with that is Lawyers make lousy guitars and they charge too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 Is Gibson about ready to go under or does all their money go directly to their legal department? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mondaymonkey Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 Gibsons being a MASSIVE pain in the ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members utsapp89 Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 You don't like it just ignore it, cause there's no way to keep them from doing whatever the hell they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members leopardstar Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 really, who give's a {censored} about "guitar hero"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 really, who give's a {censored} about "guitar hero"? really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FranklinPearl Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 what a bunch of dicks...indian givers... fwiw, I have wanted a LP Special (like Dean DeLeo plays) for a good bit...but every one that i play feels like crap...so {censored} em. this is too much...sure guitar hero is not as cool as the real thing, but to sue a company over something you encouraged them to do? that is a woman bitch move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sixstringmuse Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 gibson big wigs: "{censored} QC lets sue wal mart" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brewski Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 You don't like it just ignore it, cause there's no way to keep them from doing whatever the hell they want. Boycotting Gibson for three months with explanation that they stop suing or no one will ever buy their guitar again would teach them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlackHatHunter Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 I am in Gibson's corner. They own the patent, let them collect. Not to mention that anyone who gives WalMart a headache is all right in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chemten Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 I am in Gibson's corner. They own the patent, let them collect.Not to mention that anyone who gives WalMart a headache is all right in my book. they own a patent. whether that patent actually applies to GH and the like is up for the courts to decide. from the way the patent is written, this won't make it to trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Welladjusted Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 I am in Gibson's corner. They own the patent, let them collect.Not to mention that anyone who gives WalMart a headache is all right in my book. I'd be tempted to agree if not for the fact that this comes after the third Guitar Hero game which have Gibson logos and products all over them. I'm perplexed by this. If they were so concerned about patents, they clearly wouldn't be lending their trademark guitars to a game that violated it, let alone three of them. But this isn't good publicity either. I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V-Type Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 Another ridiculous patent awarded too a market gouging company.Why am I not surprised.Zakk and Gibson somehow legally got the patent too the Bullseye on a guitar.And Zakk wants All rights to the any Bulleye on Any musical instruments.What a bunch of Douche's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DADGADammit Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 this could be a formality between Gibson and Activision. If Gibson doesn't sue them for this patent, anyone in the future would be able to make a game like this and Gibson wouldn't have the right to sue them because they ignored Guitar Hero in the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarMasterNot Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 damn.. there goes my idea for an lp shaped pingpong bat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anonymous Guy Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 That's funny, because Konami's been making 3D simulated performance games featuring instruments well before 1999.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UllyssesSB Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 Why are we defending Wal-mart and activision? Do you all prefer Guitar-Hero to a real guitar? Get over it man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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