Members quarky Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 http://www.ioffer.com/i/gibson-les-paul-traditional-in-desert-burst-207276972?source=eisi Fake or a scam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spike Li Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 Dude, everything on ioffer is a fake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quarky Posted August 15, 2011 Author Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 Ah thanks. I haven't come across the site before.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spike Li Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 Ah thanks. I haven't come across the site before.. No worries, you know what they say? - If its too good to be true it usually is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funkwire Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 As spike posted, ioffer is a well-known scam site. And yes, it's fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thop Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 Wait is it a scam site as in you receive nothing for your money, or is it a tradetang counterfeit site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaVenCAD Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 Wow, $350 for a Gibson Randy Rhodes Les Paul Custom? That's gotta be legit!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitarist+ Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 350 for an Ace Frehley Gibson LP, lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Christhee68 Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 Just out of curiousity (electric guitar noob here) what would be the difference between that fake Gibson, and say a similar Epiphone model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funkwire Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 Just out of curiousity (electric guitar noob here) what would be the difference between that fake Gibson, and say a similar Epiphone model? Hard to say. There have been rumors that some of these fake Gibsons are being made at Epiphone facilities in China. I haven't seen any proof of that, but photos of the wiring cavities of some of these fakes do look very similar to Epiphones. Reviews of these 'Chibsons' run the gamut from "pretty good for $300" to "about what I expected for $300". The important difference between them is that the Epiphone is a legally licensed copy of the Gibson Les Paul. The other is counterfeit made and sold under fradulent means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Christhee68 Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 I just remembered a time I went into ap pawn shop and they had a really nice Gibson Les Paul Gold Top behind the counter. I asked the guy to look at it, and the guy handed it me and said "That's a not a real Les Paul. It's a Chinese copy." Pretty straight up info from a pawn shop guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GibsonQC Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 Wow, the fakes are getting closer. The only two glaring things I noticed about that (other than the price) are the bridge and the pickguard is beveled on the edges. The headstock is slightly off, but way closer than what it used to be. They even got the truss rod cover down to 2 screws like a real Gibson. The other problem with selling/buying these is that somewhere down the road, even if YOU know it's fake, you may sell it to someone who then sells it to someone else for $1200 claiming it's real. Best to keep these out of circulation so some 18 yr old kid doesn't get scammed out of $1000+ buying his first "real" guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rburgess Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 Common sense tells me, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slushpup96 Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 http://www.ioffer.com/i/gibsons-les-paul-custom-green-color-electric-guitar-202694422 I DON'T EVEN CARE HOW FAKE THIS IS. I want it. The Chibsons aren't that bad. And $350 costs less than an Epi anyway. Seriouslys guys, I'm considering a Chibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OldGuitarPlayer Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 Read the text of the ad and it's pretty obvious it's a Chinese company like Tradetang. I once saw a fake Gibson LP Standard at the local used guitar shop. The owner of the shop didn't have it on display and he would not sell it in his shop (apparently it's illegal). I don't know were he got it but it was a pretty bad fake. He brought it out to show me since we were talking about the fake Gibsons seen on Tradetang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slushpup96 Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 Yeah, you can tell that one is fake. If you look at the picture of the headstock that shows a bit of the neck, you'll see the frets aren't sanded down on the edge of the neck. Gibson always sands their's down right at the edge of the neck though. The one curious thing about it is that "Les Paul" on the headstock is surprisingly well done for a fake. Odds are fake, buy at your own risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 The frets dont have the binding over the edges - the serial number is stamped through the lacquer (gibsons are stamped brfore lacquering), The pickguard is flared at the end, Nut is too fat and doesnt look like bone, headstock doesnt tilt back at the right angle, Gibson logo is not at the right angle - The Les Paul Fonts are rwong - The headstock appears top be narrow if it isnt a photo problem. Gibson isnt usingt those cheap TOM bridges any more and they dont have reversed saddels on the low strings,The truss cover is single layered and the fonts are wrong Check these sites out. http://guitarless.com/2010/05/buyer-beware-fakegenuine-les-paul-photo-comparison/ http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/CounterfeitGibsons/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaVenCAD Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 Looks like they're not so great at cloning afterall.. I've never seen the skunk stripe on the front before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sk8centilli Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 Dude, everything on ioffer is a fake... I bought this waterslide on iOffer, which could be used to make-a-fake , but I applied it to a real Fender after it was refinished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 Looks like they're not so great at cloning afterall.. I've never seen the skunk stripe on the front before. Thats a good one. Seems like organized crime in china will stick a label on anything if some stupid american kid is stupid enough to buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mymindsok Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 Damn...And I just bought ten of em... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goosefartfan Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 Thats a good one. Seems like organized crime in china will stick a label on anything if some stupid american kid is stupid enough to buy it. I have some really bad news for you......... those gits aren't being sold by the chinese mafia. The chinese will fake everything, from purses to watches to guitars to make up. I'm sure everyone including the govt. knows about it. a couple years ago they raided ONE warehouse. I don't know if anyone served time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 Heres another one. You can see they are painting the headstocks now so you cant see the how the necks are graphted on. This one hasnt even got a toggel switch plate. You can see how they punch through the lacquer for the serial numbers too. http://www.ioffer.com/i/gray-les-paul-custom-electric-guitar-474465040 A custom for $190? yea righthttp://www.ioffer.com/i/perfect-gibsons-les-paul-custom-electric-guitar-473511540 An ES335 for $230 with a fake Bigsby and white serial numbers? Dont think sohttp://www.ioffer.com/i/gibsons-es-335-red-tremolo-jazz-electric-guitar-475308968 An L-5, same deal generic tuners on this one. http://www.ioffer.com/i/gibsons-l-5-ces-archtop-jazz-guitar-l5-ces-l-5-ces-476807302 Ever see a red custom? Check out the back cover position. http://www.ioffer.com/i/gibsons-les-paul-custom-electric-guitar-no-g35-476875058 How bout this beautiful graphted rosewood neck? Love the square burst on the back too, that should be real convincingyou got the real deal. http://www.ioffer.com/i/1958-gibson-es-335-jazz-electric-guitar-472426776 Bad gold paint job?http://www.ioffer.com/i/gibson-custom-shop-57-les-paul-gold-top-vos-guitar-203124548 Real convincing pickguardhttp://www.ioffer.com/i/fender-precision-electric-bass-guitar-472497378 How bout a PRS with a botched finish? http://www.ioffer.com/i/paul-reed-smith-prs-blue-electric-guitar-472498204 Headstock, tuners, and beveled body on this tele are going to convice othershttp://www.ioffer.com/i/2011-new-fender-telecaster-yellow-electric-guitar-no-f9-475026070 Cheezy import tuners with Plastic bushings? Square Headstock and white plastic pickups. Super cheezy fret job. That cheap plastic binding is really going to fool everybody. http://www.ioffer.com/i/gibson-les-paul-deluxe-limited-edition-wine-flame-203152328 That one is no wheres close to my real paul. [ATTACH=CONFIG]337845[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 I have some really bad news for you.........those gits aren't being sold by the chinese mafia.The chinese will fake everything, from purses to watches to guitars to make up.I'm sure everyone including the govt. knows about it. a couple years ago they raided ONE warehouse. I don't know if anyone served time. I didnt say Mafia, I said organized crime. Crime is organized any time it isnt random, and since the entire moraless country is doing it you can kind of call that an organized attempt to fleece the rest of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted August 15, 2011 Members Share Posted August 15, 2011 Hard to say. There have been rumors that some of these fake Gibsons are being made at Epiphone facilities in China. I haven't seen any proof of that, but photos of the wiring cavities of some of these fakes do look very similar to Epiphones. Reviews of these 'Chibsons' run the gamut from "pretty good for $300" to "about what I expected for $300".The important difference between them is that the Epiphone is a legally licensed copy of the Gibson Les Paul. The other is counterfeit made and sold under fradulent means. Given that Gibson OWNS the Epi factories in China, it's unlikely they come from there. The plant manager is from Tennessee. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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