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Best low wattage tube amp for high gain?

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  • Best low wattage tube amp for high gain?

    Moving to an apartment soon, looking for a good low watt tube amp for high gain tones, don't really care about clean much-or at all really, I have other amps that can do that well at a lower volume. Price doesn't really matter, as long as it's quality and does high gain sounds well. Also low wattage meaning hopefully under 5w.
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    Mini rectifier.

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    • #3
      I wouldn't exactly think that low wattage equals great high gain performance in low volumes for an appartment. In fact, low wattage for me, means great power tube crunch in band volumes or bars when you can't really crank a 100 watter. For home use both are equal out of their field of action, believe it or not, be it 5 watt or 50.



      Still, there are many amps that get good low volume performance but the sound, it is good for practice but that is it about it for me. It never will be as when they are turned up. I mean my XXX with carefull eq and the damping on tight gets great sound for home use but it is still, preampy not full amp sound.



      I've had better luck with modellers, pc plugins or the tech21 trademark 10 I usually use. The yamaha THR10 seems a great solution also, it is designed for exactly what you are after.



      Else, I'd also try high gain pedals in a clean amp.
      <div class="signaturecontainer">&quot;is this tone obtainable using the HD500 or Axe Fx? Overall, for convenience and volume control, should I buy the Axe Fx over actual tube amps? I don't plan on playing loud; just playing at home and recording on my Mac. Thanks man, you are awesome!<br />
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      • #4
        I'd go against tube for home use as well. But since you said the price doesn't matter, I'd go Kemper or Axe through studio monitors.
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        • #5
          I wouldn't bother with a tube amp for apartment use, unless you were getting something to use at home but also with a band.
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          <div class="message">Give it 6 months and the Axe-Fx will be mentioned in the same sentence as the Johnson Millenium stuff.</div>

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          • #6
            I wouldn't bother with a tube amp for apartment use, unless you were getting something to use at home but also with a band.
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            <div class="message">Give it 6 months and the Axe-Fx will be mentioned in the same sentence as the Johnson Millenium stuff.</div>

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            • #7
              I'd also go Axe or Kemper, though thru something like the Atomic FR. I use the Axe and Atomic FR combo at home and it's glorious, getting far better tones than from the tube amps I had (Diezel and Egnater).



              Low wattage tube amps don't sound great for high gain IMO. I'd rather have a 50-100W with a good master volume than a low wattage amp.
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              • #8
                Blackstar HT5....The emulated out works GREAT with headphones also.

                PLUS - you'll save mucho jack (200+ used)
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                • #9
                  Big +1 on the Blackstar HT5. Although that thing can get really loud through a 4x12, you can get great tones at TV volumes
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                  • #10
                    Why does it have to be tube and under 5 watts. An AMT P1 and EHX 44 Magnum will do what you want and kick ass doing it.
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                    • #11
                      I have THR10 and I prefer my Blackstar HT-60 for low volume hi gain sounds.. maybe it's just preference. I use a Digitech RP in the loop to bring the volume right down (it has settings out of 100 for volume).. that allows me to have the master and preamp volumes quite high.. and then run low volume settings on the RP. Everyone talks about the THR (and I like it) but I was spoiled for so long with this Blackstar setup, that the THR was a bit of a disappointment hi gain wise.. I do love the lower gain models though.

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                      • #12
                        I don't see how you could do much better than a good overdrive or distortion pedal or two in front of that Class 5 with the Marshall set kinda clean. If you really want to keep it tube, then get a quality tube preamp pedal like the V-Twin, or something.



                        At volume levels that low it doesn't matter that much what the power section is, because at apt levels even a small power section won't be taxed.
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                        • #13
                          I've got a Fender Champion 600 I use for most of my low volume playing, and it takes my various dirt boxes and my Digitech RP200 like a champ.



                          The internal speaker is not that hot, but it sounds pretty tits plugged into my Earcandy 1x12.
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                          • #14
                            ht-20, awesome high gain even if slightly dark. at low volumes
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                            • #15
                              Vox lil night train 2 watts. Check out 5:20 when they hook to a 412.





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