I really dont like my studio monitors

I currently have a set of Yamaha HS80M's and I find that my mixes arent translating after mixdown. The Yamahas are VERY bright , so during the mix , it has plenty of top end then when I mix it down , it sounds very muffled. I find myself mixing to where it doesnt sound good at all in the control room to get it to translate. When I play a cd through them its the same thing, very bright and tinny sounding. Any monitor reccomendations? I had a set of Behringer Truth monitors and honestly I thought they were much more true to the sound of the mix

I use these along with the sub and they have a pretty good response IMO.

Have you tried the -2db high trim and/or mid trim switches?

Have you measured the room's frequency response?

Have you done any treatment to the room?

I've been working my "room" for two months and find that the more you put into the room treatment the better the monitors sound, quite frankly I'm finding it is all about the room.

Mike

Ditto. I find that mine translate very well into 'real world' mixdowns. But, I've treated the room and adjusted the switchs on the back to suit my room.

Tritto. I love my HS80s and they sound fine. check the room, check the switches, cross check with "Reference material". The tool might be fine, but it is how it is used.

In three different rooms I had to use the switches on the back to make them fit better. Very useful indeed. but I think with good reference material, I could mix on an AM radio too. Gotta know the ballpark to keep it IN it.

The same old issues present themselves. Do you mix in a acoustically controlled environment? Treating the room makes a load of difference. What's your setup?

Sit back 3 ft and you suddenly have the bass you were looking for. I had the same problem until I rode my chair back one time to reach something.

My walls kept bouncing the bass to the middle of the room.

I treated the room and everything is supurb now. I love them.

My control room is treated and I have the switches on the back set. Even with the high trim at -2 , there is WAY more high end through the monitors than what comes out in the mixdown. If you sat in front of my monitors and listened to one of my mixes you would say " wow that is a lot of high end and everything sounds really tinny". When I mix that same thing down and play it in your car , there isnt near enough high end. I had the exact opposite problem when I was using the Tapco monitors. The only ones Ive used that Ive found translated for me are the cheap Behringer Truths! Its such a significant difference between what I hear and what mixes down that it makes me question whether Im doing the mixdown process correctly. Everyones input is greatly appreciated though

What did you do the room?

How did you determine what to do?

How far away from the NFM's do you sit?

I'm not trying to be a PITA but I've found you can make things worse rather than better depending on what you did and where you did it. You can litterally send your high end in the "toilet" if you place 2" Aurelex in the wrong spot vs the right spot. I found that out the hard way this weekend.

I run a guitar shop and I had my Auralex rep draw up a plan for treating the room and that is what I did to it. I dont know the specifics to be honest. All kinds of weird foam in weird places! I probably sit 3 feet from the monitors would be my guess. I understand room treatment is important , but I really dont think that is the issue here.

All kinds of weird foam in weird places!

LOL, sounds like my place!

Well good luck to you and hope it works out.

Mike

Auralex foam is okay for what it is, but it's not a total solution. When people have only thin acoustic foam, translation issues as you describe are the result. The core problem is that most foam absorbs only mid and high frequencies. So this unbalances the energy / frequency response in the room. The solution is to add bass traps, so the absorption works over the entire range.

--Ethan

You might ask your Auralex rep to give a listen...surely he knows bad news travels fast, especially in retail.

nat whilk ii

could you post up one of your best mixes from the HS80 somewhere online? Would be interesting to hear what you are mixing.

Also, I think an important question is: what is the goal of the mix? Home fun, commercial release, radio, local distribution, demo only?

I have the yamaha's for over 3 years and ive come to the same conclusion. Im noticing myself loving those over bright Genelecs more and more. I used to mix in a over treated room every wall was covered in foam rear above sides and front+carpet floor. I am changing the room/position tomorow and i will reply with any improvments ive made by using a different room/possition. Ive got a feeling mixing in a untreated room may aid my mixs translation. I promise i will get back on this topic

I seriously doubt one can adequately treat a room effectively with only Auralex foam products. At some point you have to bust out the rigid fiberglass or other more serious and professional solutions to get the job done.

There may be something else going on, but this has to be at least part of the translation problem.

I tend to agree. While I have some "foam" in my mixing room, it is just there to compliment the bass traps. FWIW check out this forum. It is all about design/setup/sound treatments. IMO any decent speaker, and lets be honest even the less expensive models these days are pretty good, should be usable in a well treated room. Unless there really is something defective with the speakers.