Members Rose Pickups Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 We are researching guitars, and are thinking about a new style. Do you prefer to see new guitars with known body styles or shapes, or would you want a new company to have its own style? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 Some type of offset maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members themachineisgod Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 Super offsets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spike Li Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 New body shape, the last thing the already over saturated guitar market needs is another strat, tele, lp, etc knock off. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Promit Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 I noticed you guys last week and went poking around the Rose Pickups site. It seems like you've got some nice stuff and all, but I didn't really see why I would pick Rose over anybody else. That's a problem. You need to make a case for what differentiates you from the competition, and a new body style helps an awful lot in doing that. P.S. Might want to consider sound clips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Goofball Jones Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 Like the new Reverend Sensei. It seems like an old style, but yet it's a different take...kinda. I personally don't like really bizarre styles or shapes made just to show how clever a luthier is or whatever. I like something that I wouldn't be embarrassed to play....my playing alone is embarrassing enough . Here is the new Reverend, in case some haven't seen it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BoneNut Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 I'd like to see some new styles... Not goofy, not butt ugly is cool and not "Look at me I'm evil, brootalz and 13".I just wish that major manufactures would start designing some fresh, new and quality designs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rose Pickups Posted October 20, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 I noticed you guys last week and went poking around the Rose Pickups site. It seems like you've got some nice stuff and all, but I didn't really see why I would pick Rose over anybody else. That's a problem. You need to make a case for what differentiates you from the competition, and a new body style helps an awful lot in doing that.P.S. Might want to consider sound clips. I completely agree. The reason why I bring it up is because currently we only sell to a local mom and pop, and thats all good, but we have competition with a cheaper guitar. Even though our strats are mahogany, its not enough to get that first time buyer to pay slightly more for a guitar that looks the same. Hence the problem. So we have designed a new style that we are very excited about. We started a prototype and when that arrives we should go into bigger production. A signature style with variation if you will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratotak Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 When some open says "New body" shape..To me It dosent mean just taking a strat or tele or SG,etc..and slightly changing a couple angles and curves..It means something new that has never been done before..Theres nothing new out there..Just strat,teles,Les Pauls,etc.. ...For example that Reverend in previous post..Theres nothing new about that...A double cutaway ..Wow..never saw that before.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Goofball Jones Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 When some open says "New body" shape..To me It dosent mean just taking a strat or tele or SG,etc..and slightly changing a couple angles and curves..It means something new that has never been done before..Theres nothing new out there..Just strat,teles,Les Pauls,etc.. ...For example that Reverend in previous post..Theres nothing new about that...A double cutaway ..Wow..never saw that before.. Didn't say it was "new"...said it was a bit different. A different take on something. No some drastic alien thing, but...different. I guess for you personally if you see a double cutaway, you've seen them all. But here you go, here's a guitar for you...jam away! Oops, that's just a double cutaway also. What was I thinking. Here: Nope, same old design there also. Here we go: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratotak Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 Heres a freebie then..lol..I did this on photoshop..Was thinking Id take a cheap new York pro strat and doing this to it...Pickguard would need to be slightly different to follow top curve.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheFigurehead Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 Do a musiclander body, but full size, 25.5 scale, top routed, without a stupid headstock, and I'll buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bebenavole Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 i got a few ideashow much you willin to pay....heheheh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rose Pickups Posted October 20, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 A new design is a hard thing to do..honestly. We are all so comfortable with what exists. It's like trying to come up with a band name.. to me, not so easy. But I think we have a winner for a body shape that will serve as a platform for different styles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vintage55 Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 Creating something "new and different" might seem easy, but if you look at what the typical buyer wants, it is most always the same old, same old. You can make a body shape that looks like nothing else, and most players will be uninterested because it doesn't look like something else. If you take the basic strat, LP, SG, tele, etc and really examine them closely, there are ways each could be improved on in subtle ways. They would most likely still be very similiar to the original, but now with design changes that actually improve the guitar and not just make it a little different. Some examples would be a belly cut on the back of a tele and LP. Increased upper-fret access on an lp. Reposition the pickup selector on the lp so it is part of the flow of playing, rather than having to reach up and away from the area of the guitar where your right hand is normally positioned during playing. Carved-top strat or tele would be cool. More pickup switching capabilities with not only combinations of on-board pickups, but series/parallel and frequency response control. I have a Benford strat with a mini-toggle that slightly rolls off highs on all pickups. Simple, but very, very useful. Variable blend controls to not just add two pickups together, but control how much of each pickup you hear. On a strat, roll the edges of the guitar differently along the body edges, rather than the consistent roll that is common from top/back to the sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willyguitar Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 The thing to bear in mind with this research is that you are not getting a very randomly distributed cross section of the electric guitar playing population. The main people who will look at and answer this thread, will be those who look for new and innovative body shapes. The traditionalists are much less likely to click on it. As well as that, relatively few people want to admit that they are conservative in this regard. If you want to sell guitars, you are probably better off going for a shape that is recognisable, and on the side of traditional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JMR Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 if it's an lp type, make it like a PF. new designs please, there's already so many strat, tele, lp, sg, es335 etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ΨWindingΨ Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 I own two Fender Strats and one Gibson Les Paul, but I like anything that is well built and aesthetically designed, hence I like PRS and Parker too. Maybe they'll join the stable someday. I detest Big Hair Band Guitars, BC Rich's, Flying Vs of any sort or anything too ugly to make me puke. And there are plenty of those out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vintage55 Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 I own two Fender Strats and one Gibson Les Paul, but I like anything that is well built and aesthetically designed, hence I like PRS and Parker too. Maybe they'll join the stable someday.I detest Big Hair Band Guitars, BC Rich's, Flying Vs of any sort or anything too ugly to make me puke. And there are plenty of those out there. They always seem like just a big slab of wood cut into some weird shape, with ugly headstock and gaudy paint schemes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ol' Tree Frog Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 I really enjoy some of the new designs done with a retro sensibility. The Backlund guitars are always cool. Some of the Ibanez offerings in recent years ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Tele Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 Kind of tough. I think a mistake companies make is they take an old design and tweak it just a bit, then it just looks like a goofy Tele or whatever. Or they go the opposite and try to reinvent the wheel and then you have a Wangcaster. Something inbetween a retarded Tele and a Wangcaster would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ComOp Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 I think more than anything what I look for is a well built guitar at a lower cost to me. I'm not talking about $100 les paul style guitars from china specifically or $69 telecasters or strats. No, I am talking about $500-$1000 for a guitar with an OFR, good pups and a good look to it. Something that plays well and looks good. Hard tails that look nice with great tone. I think most of us prefer neck through or set neck guitars with a good finish and the hardware/electronics we don't have to immediately yank out and replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members roygbiv Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 If you're asking an internet forum for advice on your business plan, you've got bigger problems than the design of your products. That said, best of luck to you with your business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spike Li Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 Something inbetween a retarded Tele and a Wangcaster would be cool. The Twangcaster!! (patent pending) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vintage55 Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 If you're asking an internet forum for advice on your business plan, you've got bigger problems than the design of your products.That said, best of luck to you with your business. Not sure the question is about their business plan, but about what kind of product YOU want. Since it is YOU that might buy it, it's nice to know they're actually concerned about what YOU want. Some companies just do what THEY want and then YOU don't want it. Isn't it nice to know someone actually cares about YOU for a change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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