Members Special J Posted October 21, 2009 Members Share Posted October 21, 2009 I'll echo what's been said. If you can come up with a new design that has the look and feel of an old design, then you're doing well. I think Reverend is really good at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Backlund Posted October 21, 2009 Members Share Posted October 21, 2009 So that is the issue. Make guitars that already exist, and get called boring, or try to come up with something new and face the resistance that change brings. There ya go! But I have the distinct advantage(?) of not caring what's popular or not in the market. Selling guitars was never my intent in designing them, I just created things I liked to look at and showed them to others who like electric guitars...somebody besides me decided to build some of them to sell. It's pretty much been a 'labor of love' as far as I'm concerned, I've never made a nickel doing it and have no reason to think I ever will...but then, I have nothing invested in any of them but some fairly enjoyable time spent creating them. I'll agree with the others on this thread who've mentioned Reverend's tallent at 'tweaking' a design just enough to give it a distinct character without going entirely out into left field with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rose Pickups Posted October 21, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 21, 2009 I appreciate everyone who's shared their opinion. It is good info. I make strat copies already, and thats cool, but there really is too much competition. They can be had for less, and as stated earlier, mine are a slight upgrade to a traditional made in China strat, but that upgrade falls on deaf ears when the new customer has no idea what the differences do. I.E., the mom or dad that comes in wanting to get their child a guitar for the first time, when there are 2 no names lets say, to choose from, and they look the same, but one costs less, who gets that business? We have designed a new body, its a double cut, will be offered in a flat body and a carved, in 4 different styles. I hope it is a hit. One thing is for sure, it is not a Fender or a Gibson, etc... It will be recognizable hopefully as a New Dawn Guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rose Pickups Posted October 21, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 21, 2009 By the way John, your guitars are wicked cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Edward Posted October 21, 2009 Members Share Posted October 21, 2009 That's pretty nice..Except for EMG's No but Rose, you have to build, quality, solid, reliable instruments, for a cheaper price, to compete with the edge of the market. I love this body shape I almost bought one (just giving ideas...) I loved the surf green one of those they did - I'd have been tempted, though back to the same old, same old - no lefties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rose Pickups Posted October 21, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 21, 2009 We are definitely making sure that the guitars will pass inspection. Of course, some things must be "upgradeable" to keep cost lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rose Pickups Posted October 21, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 21, 2009 I think that this poll painted a good picture for me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman Posted October 21, 2009 Members Share Posted October 21, 2009 They can be had for less, and as stated earlier, mine are a slight upgrade to a traditional made in China strat, but that upgrade falls on deaf ears when the new customer has no idea what the differences do. I.E., the mom or dad that comes in wanting to get their child a guitar for the first time, when there are 2 no names lets say, to choose from, and they look the same, but one costs less, who gets that business? . Good point. My non musician friends can't understand how a 'plain Jane' Gibson Melody Maker can cost five times more than a shiny, new $99 Squier bullet strat. Rondo music has done well with the same philosophy and with the risk of getting flamed (from Agile, SX and Douglas lovers), maybe the competition could benefit guitar players who can't afford 'name brand' headstocks. BTW, how much are your guitars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rose Pickups Posted October 21, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 21, 2009 Good point. My non musician friends can't understand how a 'plain Jane' Gibson Melody Maker can cost five times more than a shiny, new $99 Squier bullet strat. Rondo music has done well with the same philosophy and with the risk of getting flamed (from Agile, SX and Douglas lovers), maybe the competition could benefit guitar players who can't afford 'name brand' headstocks. BTW, how much are your guitars? Agreed. The New Dawn Iconic is 199, the Visionary is 349, and our Signature style is being built right now. It will come in 3 styles, Vintage flat top, modern flat top, and signature carved. All the same shape though, so we are hoping it becomes known as a New Dawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chewybaca67 Posted October 21, 2009 Members Share Posted October 21, 2009 I like cool shapes and traditional shapes. I wish I didn't have to sell my neck thru Jackson rhodes model but I did. I had a Gibson Explorer too, but the neck was like a baseball bat. I''d like a Jackson Kelly or better ye, one of them new Neck thru LTD Explorer types. I've always guitars are like womins:* Cuvry shapes* respond to touch* can be kind or a total bitch That said, I've had some pretty "out there" shaped guitars. Guess that sez a lot 'bout some of the womins been with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twofoolsaminute Posted October 21, 2009 Members Share Posted October 21, 2009 I really always like a new shape to a guitar, but it has to be tasteful. It seems new shapes are always some stunted form of one that came before. It needs classic lines and curves. The problem is...that's a pretty tall order for it to have proper proportions and look classic. I'm afraid I can't really answer the question as to what you should do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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