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Brrrr... my a$$. ;)

 

Try -20F (-29C) here outside of Denver recently (-4F last night). Currently -52F (-47C) w/windchill in North Dakota. Those darned Canucks (Canadians) keep blowing their arctic air down from up there. ;) I don't want to know the temperatures in Canada (actually, just checked). Now that is Brrrrrrrrr.

 

Light a fire? Snuggies? Electric blanket?

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very true, the majority of the UK seem to be completely inept when it comes to a bit of cold weather - it's a bit embarrassing to be honest. Although I know a fair chunk of England have got a lot of snow recently.

 

And don't get me started on some of the driving on show....

 

 

 

 

hmmm need to update my avatar I think :D

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I'd say that half the "problem" with the weather in the UK is that people just don't know how to dress up against the cold. So many times I meet people complaining about the cold. I ask them if they've put on any long underwear or similar, and they act like that's some sort of ridiculous, stupid, suggestion. I've just been outside, and was toasty warm in my long underwear, coat, hat, gloves, and hiking socks. Other countries have far colder temperatures, and far more snow, but just seem to get on with it. Snow chains on cars anyone? Shoes with snow and ice grips anyone? Nope, here things just close down.


I hate to think what your typical Scandinavian thinks of us.

 

true, British people are only prepared for one type of weather: rain

 

ps snow chains on cars are illegal as the destroy the roads :cop:

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Christ on a friggin' stick. No wonder it took 30 seconds for my reply to post. DaveAronow, stop that! It's too cold to sit here waiting and not moving.
;)

 

Yeah, the posts are coming in out of chronological time order today which happens for some reason on this site every once in awhile.

 

someone a couple posts above mentioined an electric blanket.

 

I dont have a full sized blanket, but I can tell you when I am chilly or when my rhumetoid arthritis is acting up, I lay in bed with my heating pad on full blast and the warmth from that little thing blasting into my sore bones is like a luxury and comfort that I can only imagine comes from heaven.

 

It is one of my great physical pleasures in life.,

 

A small 1'X2' heating pad will run you about 20.00 I personally think I have gotten thousands of dollars of enjoyment out of mine.

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what kind of 'research' have you been doing exactly?


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090129090002.htm


This is just the first link i pulled up
:facepalm:

 

I guess he could go to places around the world with glaciers and look at photos or other data on them like the height markers that people have made over the years. If you do this, you'd probably believe that glaciers seem to be shrinking in many places. I was in the French Alps at Chamonix and the glacier level on some key glaciers has fallen drastically in the past 100 years. I have been in Central Asia for the past three months, and it's the same story. I am hoping it's all just Photoshop or greedy locals just looking to get some money from the US for their troubles, but who knows?

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Ill be happy to post hundreds more if you'd like.
:thu:

 

This is why there is no hope for the world. We get people like you who uncritically gather together any old tosh to try to deny climate change due to human activity. Do you have any understanding of the processes underlying the world's weather and climate? No, you just want to keep on overconsuming, and who cares if you pollute the world to such an extent that our descendants have a ruined world to live in, if they have any world to live in at all.

 

The problem is emphasised by the number of people who say "we've had a cold snap, where's global warming?" Climate and weather is due to an incredibly complicated system, and complicated systems do not behave in simple ways when they are unbalanced. As has been pointed out. The general public just doesn't have the knowledge, training, and general wherewithal to understand how climate works, and hence has difficulty evaluating the evidence we see from the world around us.

 

If you look at people who study, understand, and publish research on climate, 97.5% of them support the view that global warming is real and caused by human activity. http://tigger.uic.edu/~pdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf The problem the world is in is that 99.howevermany9s % of people don't understand climate. And they will effectively end up making the decisions.

 

The paper concludes "It seems that the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes. The challenge, rather, appears to be how to effectively communicate this fact to policy makers and to a public that continues to mistakenly perceive debate among scientists."

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I didn't start here, but this is a pretty good point to begin:

 

iceagenow.com

 

I am fully aware that this site exists to promote the author's books, but knowing that, I've found a lot of very revealing links to some pretty good scienfific opinons which directly counter the man-made global warming bandwagon, and prove that concensus is absolute nonsense [as well as being completely unscientific]. And, yes, I believe in the Big Bang and evolution and stem cell research, etc.

 

In any event, Copenhagen showed that Tax, Trade, and Destroy is dead in the US senate, and thank goodness for that. I think Europe will finally wake up to the global warming nonsense, as some countries already have, and boot out the sycophantic politicians responsible.

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Annoying Twit: 'Green' and global warming are, in fact, two very distinct things. The earth's climate is cyclical, and has been for millions of years, due to some pronounced variations in major siderial movements, and the sun's varying energy output, etc. Human activy has virtually no bearing on the warming and cooling of the earth over any reasonable time span.

 

However, that does not give humans free license to pollute the planet with a host of cancer-causing substances and dump toxic waste willy-nilly, etc. So I like 'green' but dispute and man-made global warming.

 

On an off topic to the already off topic:

 

In the US, the dems have become the socialist/marxist party, while the GOP should be disbanded because it's a party of back-stabbing liars. I've been a registered independent for over forty years, and I pretty much hate how political party is considered more important than the country as a whole. So I am completely cynical when it comes to party politics. I have no political axe to grind. I just like to be allowed to think for myself.

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Precisely.


There is no way that the world is going to be saved. There are too many people just too eager to believe any old tripe that suggests that they don't have to make major changes to their lifestyles.

 

Not only that, there are too many people, period, and more is coming. :poke:

 

8 Inches, try a few feet of snow and -18C, that we have here. Haven't had this cold nor this much snow for a really long time. :cry:

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Annoying Twit: 'Green' and global warming are, in fact, two very distinct things. The earth's climate is cyclical, and has been for millions of years, due to some pronounced variations in major siderial movements, and the sun's varying energy output, etc. Human activy has virtually no bearing on the warming and cooling of the earth over any reasonable time span.

 

 

So says you. Personally I believe the 97.5% of qualified scientists who study and publish on the earth's climate who have good evidence that climate change is real, and due to human activity. Who are you and what is your background that means that your contrary opinion should be given any serious consideration?

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At least you're honest.

 

 

I was being ironic really, I know a couple of Met Office scientists with NO political agenda at all who have convinced me that we need to do something.

I only take issue with the misguided and cynical way we're being taxed, and issues such as scrapping tens of thousands of perfectly good cars, even though it takes many times more energy to MAKE a car than the old one would have used in it's natural lifespan.

And, living in a VERY rural area, I object to being told by people who live and work in West London to use public transport more...

...and my Chinese Stratocaster is falling apart!

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I've had it with this weather. Roads all icy, I can live with. Thousands of offices and schools closed, I'll get over it. Coldest winter for 20 years or so, whatever.

 

But I bought a brand spanking new sexy black MIA Strat the other day, and it was supposed to arrive today. But the courier company haven't been making collections so it's still stuck in the shop.

 

 

Aggghhhh!!!!!!

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