Members scuzzo Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 I hear about you need to learn this and these and this mode and this form and these scales... but you almost never hear.. "YOU need to learn time".. i think thats a key thing in being an better player.. learning how to place your notes in time and phrases.. in short learn Rhythm.. you have all heard the cat who can run up and down the fret board like a track star but when asked to keep time to the song he is lost. just a mess.. thats what im really working on right now.. time.. so how are you at time and rhythm? do you value a good feel for rhythm in guitar playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 I think its fundamental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members csm Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 Damn right I do. I worship at the shrines of Pete Townshend, Lord Keef, Jimmy Nolen, Johnny Ramone and the greatest rhythm guitarist (most of) you never heard of -- WILKO JOHNSON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Osiris Risen Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 I think it's easily the most important part of playing. You can make a song that sounds good with just a chord or two if you've got a good sense of time, but all the scales and modes in the world won't help you sound good if you can't put them where they need to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zemmy Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 so how are you at time and rhythm? do you value a good feel for rhythm in guitar playing? I can play a 3/3 shuffle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johanneswiberg Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 In rhythm guitar its a major factor, and in lead work as well. Good melodies aren't good unless they have timing - which is based on rhythm. Whatever instrument you play, rhythm is a major part of what you do, but even more so with guitar since it's, at least in some genres, part of the rhythm section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oldskool Texas Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 In a band situation, I can't think of a more crucial skill than a good sense of rhythm; to me, it's more important than speed, licks, or even tone. If you can't play in the pocket when you need to (and play out of it when it's right for the song) it doesn't much matter what else you can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invader.CC Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 In my opinion Rhythm guitar is 95 percent of guitar playing even though most people get noticed for there lead playing ability... It's kind of like a good bass player isn't really noticed until pointed out but without him the band would be lost.. If you are speaking of just having Rhythm in general it is very important ..But remember rhythm can be taught that's what they make metronomes for.. I have had students that looked like Steve Martin in the Jerk trying to keep time or Rhythm which ever you want to call it when they first started out...To being a accomplished guitar player a few years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cassette Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 I think it's easily the most important part of playing. You can make a song that sounds good with just a chord or two if you've got a good sense of time, but all the scales and modes in the world won't help you sound good if you can't put them where they need to be. can't agree more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meowy Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 Rhythm (timing) >>> anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bad mutha-humpa Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 so how are you at time and rhythm? do you value a good feel for rhythm in guitar playing? I consider guitar to be primarily a rhythm instrument and I'm at home locking in with drums and bass. I'm allergic to the idea that melody, harmony etc are all about guitar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hubert Stumblin Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 In a band situation, I can't think of a more crucial skill than a good sense of rhythm; to me, it's more important than speed, licks, or even tone. If you can't play in the pocket when you need to (and play out of it when it's right for the song) it doesn't much matter what else you can do. +1 And heck, even if you're playing by yourself it's crucial that you are able to convey a good feel for rhythm, timing, phrasing or what have you. Otherwise it all just sounds like mechanical strumming and aimless noodling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eddie Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 In addition to timing an rhythm, I love when guitar players use interesting chords and sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peavey_impact Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 If you don't have rhythm, you don't have {censored}, to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johanneswiberg Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 If you don't have rhythm, you don't have {censored}, to be honest. Yer calling rhythm {censored}? :poke: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peavey_impact Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 If you don't have rhythm, you don't have anything, to be honest. Fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twotimingpete Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 you think anyone here is going to say it's not important? come on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johanneswiberg Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 you think anyone here is going to say it's not important? come on... Yeah, it's kinda like "so, is guitar a good instrument?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johanneswiberg Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 Fixed Well played, sir. But I would have preferred "if you don't have rhythm, you only have {censored}, to be honest." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scuzzo Posted January 22, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 you think anyone here is going to say it's not important? come on... no but its rarely mentioned.. i mean keeping 4/4 time is easy but when you add accents and play on the back beat or just ahead of the beat or in odd measure.. then it starts to get a bit more of a trick now if you add on to that a second rythm that runs counter to the first.. even more of a trick.. its like a delay pedal can be a super cool thing to have but if you step out of time with it... thats a train wreck.. its an over looked fundamental that i though perhaps need a thread.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 Timing is evertrything. Without it your making noise. My favorite player to watch play rythm is Jeff Beck . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sarssipius Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 All the so called guitar heroes, and all the great guitar players in general, do have a great sense of timing and rhythm!! That's how fundamental it is, period! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paulisme Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 As important as breathing is to being alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Preacher Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 It's essential. When beginners are learning their chord shapes I tell them to stay on one and practice strumming in different rhythms. I think developing rhythm skills may be the single most overlooked aspect of guitar playing when starting out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian May Posted January 22, 2010 Members Share Posted January 22, 2010 Rhythm is so hard that most guitarist cant even spell it. Have a look in this thread for proof. Remember children, Rhythm = Rythmn Has Your Two Hips Moving. Its very important that if you cant do it you can at least spell it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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