Members Nazgul6 Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 This is an offshoot of another thread I made yesterday. I am trying to get my tremolo to be dive only. I have a new Charvel SoCal. I don't know too much about Floyds but it does pull up slightly now. There is no recessed cavity. There is just a little space between the bridge and the guitar. Is a device like a tremol-no necessary or can I just wedge some rubber in there or something? Or even do some kind of adjustment so that it just sits flat against the bridge? Thanks, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members asb Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 Are you hoping so that the bridge does NOT pull up then? So that it goes down only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nazgul6 Posted January 8, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 Are you hoping so that the bridge does NOT pull up then? So that it goes down only? Exactly, I want to install a D Tuna on it as well. Thanks, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members humbuckerstrat Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 Get one of these, you can make your Floyd dive-only with it. I put them on my Floyded guitars because it makes stringing and tuning a lot easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Prages Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 If it's not recessed, you could just tighten up the spring claw until the back of the bridge rests on the body. If you don't want to go that route, take the rear cover off, and stick a hunk of wood between the front of the trem block and the routing (it'll be on the side the springs are on). For non recessed Floyds, if it's only 1/8" or so off the top of the guitar, I'd just tighten up the claw so it rests on the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Prages Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 Get one of these, you can make your Floyd dive-only with it. I put them on my Floyded guitars because it makes stringing and tuning a lot easier. I've actually been wanting to get a couple of those for the few recessed Floyded guitars I have. I've just never gotten around to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members humbuckerstrat Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 I've actually been wanting to get a couple of those for the few recessed Floyded guitars I have. I've just never gotten around to it.If you have a floating tremolo, it's a lot better than putting a stack of picks or whatever you use now to level the Floyd while you're tuning, I recommend them highly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaVenCAD Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 You can block a Floyd completely by wedging something in there, but a dive-only block has to be a bit more precise. If the thing you wedge in slips during a dive, and the float isn't set properly, it'll come back completely messed up. The device suggested above is the route you want to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Prages Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 You can block a Floyd completely by wedging something in there, but a dive-only block has to be a bit more precise. If the thing you wedge in slips during a dive, and the float isn't set properly, it'll come back completely messed up. The device suggested above is the route you want to take. Yeah, I always have cut the wedge to the right thickness, then used a dab of glue to hold it in place when I do dive bombs. I've also blocked a couple by just taking a wood screw and screwing it in far enough so the block hits the head of the screw. Works like the device above, but isn't as neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaVenCAD Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 Well yeah, if you wanna do it RIGHT, you can do it that way. I thought you meant just cram it up there as I've seen lots of people do.. then they always end up bitching about the tuning stability.. Wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nazgul6 Posted January 8, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 Get one of these, you can make your Floyd dive-only with it. I put them on my Floyded guitars because it makes stringing and tuning a lot easier. IS that hard to install? Do I have to drill or solder or anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nazgul6 Posted January 8, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 If it's not recessed, you could just tighten up the spring claw until the back of the bridge rests on the body. Is this a good way? I mean if its not recessed, will this work? Are there any drawbacks to this in terms of playability or anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members smorgdonkey Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 If it's not recessed, you could just tighten up the spring claw until the back of the bridge rests on the body. That may take the bridge 'out of level' which is something that you don't want to do. It will also take the intonation out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Prages Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 That may take the bridge 'out of level' which is something that you don't want to do. It will also take the intonation out. Yes, it will cause the bridge to tilt back slightly, but if the bridge isn't more than about 1/8" off of the guitar's top, it shouldn't cause any problems, and intonation can still be set. I've got my orange Warmoth setup that way, and never had any trouble setting the intonation or keeping it in tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jhorne Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 IS that hard to install? Do I have to drill or solder or anything? You need to drill a couple holes, but it is no big deal I picked up a few of them recently and they work as advertised... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danhan1113 Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 I went to home depot and bought a square steel block that I epoxied to the sustain block. Voila! Dive only tremolo that stays in tune perfectly. You will LOVE!!! the sustain you get out of it. I find this technique far superior to the wood shim method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members maltomario Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 I did the same thing to my socal (ie tremstop and d-tuna) I actually rarely use the d-tuna so i leave the trem floating (back out the trem stop screw a bit). Even if you dont use a d-tuna, these things make floyd setup/intonation adjustments much easier. One trick I will mention is to wrap some teflon tape around the screw that contacts your block on the trem stop - it will keep it from vibrating and moving over time. here's a pic of my socal. I will have to snap a pic of the rear sometime.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members maltomario Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 Here's a pic of one I installed on another guitar. requires 2 drilled holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bish0p34 Posted January 8, 2010 Members Share Posted January 8, 2010 I blocked a bunch of floyds with a small wedge of wood. Took about 10 minutes to sand it, some wood glue, and done! They've been holding fine for about 4 years now. Some are blocked completely with 2 pieces, some with one so I can still dive. D-Tunas work perfect with them. Much better than the Trem-Setters I wasted money on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danhan1113 Posted January 9, 2010 Members Share Posted January 9, 2010 This picture isn't the greatest, but you can kinda see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members humbuckerstrat Posted January 9, 2010 Members Share Posted January 9, 2010 IS that hard to install? Do I have to drill or solder or anything?I just set it up inside the trem cavity the way I want it, and drive the screws in with a Phillips screw driver and "elbow grease," I don't drill any holes. And no there is nothing to solder. Drilling holes might be a better way to do it tho if you have a drill or a dremel and you're not impatient like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shredtilurded Posted January 9, 2010 Members Share Posted January 9, 2010 These are pretty cool, but $20? That's ridiculous. I made one almost identical for .65 and 25 min of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members humbuckerstrat Posted January 9, 2010 Members Share Posted January 9, 2010 These are pretty cool, but $20? That's ridiculous. I made one almost identical for .65 and 25 min of work. @ AXcessories.com (where I get mine) they're only $9.95, plus $6.95 S&H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nazgul6 Posted January 25, 2010 Author Members Share Posted January 25, 2010 Okay I took your guys advice and bought one of the above devices. I installed it, but what was happening was I would get the bridge parallel, bring the screw flush to the block and then that would bring the guitar slightly flat because the screw was pushing on the block, so I ould retine and then that would bring the block away from the screw again! Vicious cycle. Anyway, I kind of fixed that but the other issue. When I bend strings, the block obviously gets pulled a bit away from the allen screw, and then when I releas the bend there is a fairly audible click of the block coming back to make contact with the screw. Did you guys have the same experience? I was think of putting a piece of tape on the block to reduce this. If anyone has any comments, tips or techniques for this device I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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