Members johanneswiberg Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 I saw a YT clip posted here a while back of this guy sitting down it what looked like a testing booth at NAMM or something, trying out a guitar in front of a cam, and playing real delicate but techical and musical stuff... I think it was Mayer. Anyone remembers this clip? I'd love to see it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members smorgdonkey Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 http://refuge.zaadz.comSo, this guy ^^^^ has a problem with John Mayer's ego? HAHA!! Brutal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretmonster Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 I find his music un-listenable, but all in all he seems like an okay guy.This^^^A woman at work made me a disk once of one of his recent CDs - derivative, insipid drivel. Clapton never made a record this bad even when he was trashed on heroin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 67mike Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 WHAT A {censored}ING DOUCHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members esq Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 Hey, I have a ticket to his concert this weekend and I'm strongly considering picking up the signature strat. All you people with the "you can't tell me who to like!!" crap need to have a collective unbunching of the panties.Rock on, John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Arr0wHead Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 So wait.... someone made an off-color remark in a pornographic magazine? That's really, REALLY offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted February 13, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 I'm a bit surprised with some of the responses. I don't think that being a total self-absorbed narcissist automatically happens to talented artists who become popular. The whole "it comes with the territory" argument is weak. SRV didn't do it; neither did MOST of the guitarists we collectively seem admire around here (Hendrix, Gillmour, etc.). To me, the most disgusting thing is the people he hurt with his comments. How would you feel if you were Jessica Simpson's dad? She did absolutely nothing to deserve having her {censored} be compared to crack cocaine by some asshole pop artist with SRV tattooed to his arm. I don't find him funny or clever. I find him to be narcissistic to the point of being a truly histrionic personality. And I think character and class do matter. The problem is that we've become accustomed to people like Mayer--they are everywhere--in sports, movies, politics, and music. Throughout the history of rock music though, guitarists like Rory Gallagher, George Harrison, Mike Campbell, Gary Moore, Jimi Hendrix, Slash, Chuck Berry, Mark Knopfler, Eric Johnson, Warren Haynes etc. have proven to the world that guitar players are some of the coolest, humblest, and most grateful [to their fans] and gracious people you could ever hope to meet. They also respect women, at least to the point where they don't talk about their pussies to the press. To me, John Mayer is Fred Durst with marginally more talent. I'll bet the same people defending Mayer's comments thought Durst was cool at one time too. Mayer's headed in the same direction, and he knows it, thus the tearful apology. For those of you who defend him, just answer me this question: What would you think if he {censored}ed your daughter and then told millions of people around the world the details about how great her {censored} was and how much he'd pay for it. And be honest. Look familiar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aenemated Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 How would you feel if you were Jessica Simpson's dad?fwiw, from what i've read about joe simpson ... he probably dug it. a lot. that dude is {censored}ED up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted February 13, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 fwiw, from what i've read about joe simpson ... he probably dug it. a lot. that dude is {censored}ED up. Uh oh! Bad rhetorical question then. Does she have a grandfather who isn't a wanking perv? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted February 13, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 Guitarists used to be cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aenemated Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 eh, a wife-beating, child-abandoning hypocrite might not be the best example either, doc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted February 13, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 eh, a wife-beating, child-abandoning hypocrite might not be the best example either, doc. {censored} me! No wonder she fell for Romo and Mayer and then got fat when she was dumped. She never had a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr_GoodBomb Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 and gracious people you could ever hope to meet. They also respect women, at least to the point where they don't talk about their pussies to the press. To me, John Mayer is Fred Durst with marginally more talent. I'll bet the same people defending Mayer's comments thought Durst was cool at one time too. Mayer's headed in the same direction, and he knows it, thus the tearful apology. For those of you who defend him, just answer me this question: What would you think if he {censored}ed your daughter and then told millions of people around the world the details about how great her {censored} was and how much he'd pay for it. And be honest. I like you. I was honestly surprised by how many people supported that self-absorbed dip{censored} silliness, too. While I understand that Playboy is expected to ask stupid, overly-sexual questions and get answers of similar fashion, I think diving directly into tastelessness is just sad. Being a celebrity and being a tool only go hand-in-hand because we, as a culture, allow it, and at some point, started eating it up. I mean, people watch Jersey Shore. We justify it, so celebrities, no matter their level of such, further it. I also think your question with Simpson was headed in the right direction, she just happens to have some unreasonable roots. That doesn't make her ripe for public degradation by another, once intimate and friendly, "celebrity." I think someone who seems to be that "cool" would be a {censored} of a lot "cooler" if he seemed like he had any respect for other people and didn't fancy himself some kind of pop culture demigod. I'm not sure what's cool about that. Also, while this has little to do with his statement, I know NO ONE here would be supporting his statements or saying he seemed personable or cool if they didn't like his playing. And, personally, his music does jack {censored} for me. He seems like an overly cocky bastard who writes sappy, dimwit pop songs and has excellent playing ability but never seems to work it into a real SONG. Having the ability to play at some kind of iconic level but never using it in any tasteful way in a song tells me there's a serious lack in the ability to write songs. And, again, personally, I'd prefer good songwriting from a good songwriter to good player from a good player without any point of reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eddie Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 and gracious people you could ever hope to meet. They also respect women, at least to the point where they don't talk about their pussies to the press...I think that these days we have access to more information, but some of the people you mention probably have a few sordid stories to tell. Hendrix even had a sex tape before sex tapes were trendy And Slash's girlfriend was "immortalized" by Axl. IIRC, he had sex with her in the studio, recorded the act, and their sex sounds are in one of the songs in Appetite for Destruction.Harrison was a horny guy. I think that he either slept or tried to sleep with Paula, Pattie Boyd's sister.So maybe they don't go to the press, but who knows what the do or did behind closed doors. Some may be cool and humble indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joseflovesyou Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 he's since apologised for the 'n' pass thing i like his guitar playing... i couldn't care less about his personality A racist apologizing for being a racists, is still a piece of {censored} racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lex.Luthier Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 A racist apologizing for being a racists, is still a piece of {censored} racist.Saying the N word does not automatically qualify someone as being racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johanneswiberg Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 Saying the N word does not automatically qualify someone as being racist.Yes it does, just like if you're a guy and you say "haute couture" or "Andrew Lloyd Webber" you automatically turn gay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 A racist apologizing for being a racists, is still a piece of {censored} racist.i was simply putting the fact out there that he'd apologised.... not justifying anythingi think his use of the 'n' word was stupid and ignorant.... but no reason for me to hate himi'm no judge... i {censored} up on a daily basisto be honest... i wouldn't be surprised to hear he'd been riding the coke train... but at the end of the day..... i think he's a good guitar player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 and gracious people you could ever hope to meet. They also respect women, at least to the point where they don't talk about their pussies to the press. {censored} methe complete ignorance of this statement astounds meyou have a bug up your ass about this dude... plain and simple... i'm not justifying anything he said... but you're gleefully rubbing your hands together over itand he's the only rock star dude that's posted a pic with his shirt off, trying to look sexy?....you've got to be kidding me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chief Ten Beers Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 well these days almost anything you say is going to offend somebody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burningleaves Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 I read the interview a couple of times and boy is it something else. (imo) Any adult who reads the whole thing and walks away defending JM seriously needs to check their moral compass. JMHO of course...YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burningleaves Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 well these days almost anything you say is going to offend somebody. :cop:I actually offended myself yesterday with something I said to myself. Crazy days for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members smorgdonkey Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 Saying the N word does not automatically qualify someone as being racist. I think a lot of people have to take notice of this. It came from the word 'ignorant' then it was slowly shown to be disrespectful, hateful and a word that should never be used until all of the black comedians (some of whom I think are brilliant) used it left, right and center. Now it's just one major double standard. ...and what he said was right...if he REALLY had a 'hood' pass then he'd be able to say that word because he'd actually be black and then nobody would give a F if he said it or not...except Oprah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johanneswiberg Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 I read the interview a couple of times and boy is it something else. (imo) Any adult who reads the whole thing and walks away defending JM seriously needs to check their moral compass. JMHO of course...YMMV.Still, it's probably rather a case of "a dude who thinks he'll gain something by a 'bad boy' image and went a bit too far in an interview that was sexist and stupid from the getgo", than "a dude who is a clueless racist sexist douchebag". I'm not sure it's an improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joseflovesyou Posted February 13, 2010 Members Share Posted February 13, 2010 Saying the N word does not automatically qualify someone as being racist.Nope, it doesn't, but all the racist {censored} he DID say sure makes him a racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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