Members docjeffrey Posted March 19, 2010 Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 Well, OK, some of you missed South Park last night, but I really do have an issue, not with sex addiction, but with the high E string on my Gretsch Elliot Easton. It's dead. I've changed it twice. The nut slot appears to be clean. The bridge saddle is fine. The pickup is not the issue. The note just sounds dead, both acoustically and electrically. No sustain, no volume, no nuttin. The nut is graphite; I've tried both a .010 and an .011. Any suggestions? By the way, it has a Bigsby, but I can't imagine that being the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Smilin' Bob Posted March 19, 2010 Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 By the way, it has a Bigsby, This may be an important clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vintage clubber Posted March 19, 2010 Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 you've had this guitar for a while, haven't you? Is this the first time this has happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sxyryan Posted March 19, 2010 Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 Grasping at straws here, but is the string hitting the back of the bridge? I don't know how it could while the others did not, but I figured I'd ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted March 19, 2010 Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 Is it fretting out at the first fret?All my guitars (except the PRS) started doing that last week.The weather change caused it. A tiny truss rod tweak was all that was needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sxyryan Posted March 19, 2010 Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 ^^^ Yeah, is it the entire length of the string? Or just when open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SuproSuper Man Posted March 19, 2010 Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 Nice looking guitar ... i envy you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 's mel gibson Posted March 19, 2010 Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 How about the magnetic field? Maybe the pickup is the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TDBlooz Posted March 19, 2010 Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 The entire guitar is defective. There is an alien magician hiding somewhere inside it. I'll take it off your hands for a small fee. Send it to me quickly before it infects your other guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted March 19, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 you've had this guitar for a while, haven't you? Is this the first time this has happened? Yes, the problem just started--I've had the guitar for 5 or 6 years. That's why I'm leaning toward the nut having expanded in the dry winter air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted March 19, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 How about the magnetic field? Maybe the pickup is the cause.I'll double check that. I did set up the pickups according to TV Jones' spec's, but they have the pickups pretty close to the strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted March 19, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 The entire guitar is defective. There is an alien magician hiding somewhere inside it. I'll take it off your hands for a small fee.Send it to me quickly before it infects your other guitars. Honestly, right now, you prolly wouldn't want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted March 19, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 ^^^Yeah, is it the entire length of the string? Or just when open? Ahhh, well, IIRC it improves when fretted, but lemme pull it off the wall to confirm that fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted March 19, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 Grasping at straws here, but is the string hitting the back of the bridge? I don't know how it could while the others did not, but I figured I'd ask. Thanks, I did not think of that. I'll check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SuproSuper Man Posted March 19, 2010 Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 is it only dead when you pick an open string , or is it sounding dead when you press the string to the frets too,,,??? does it still sound dead for every fret down the neck , or is it only the open string resting on the nut that sounds dead ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members caveman Posted March 19, 2010 Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 Is it fretting out at the first fret?All my guitars (except the PRS) started doing that last week.The weather change caused it. A tiny truss rod tweak was all that was needed. I've been tweaking truss rods as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trashedlostfdup Posted March 19, 2010 Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 The weather change caused it. A tiny truss rod tweak was all that would be needed. ding ding ding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted March 19, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 Is it fretting out at the first fret?All my guitars (except the PRS) started doing that last week.The weather change caused it. A tiny truss rod tweak was all that was needed. It doesn't seem to be fretting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted March 19, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 ding ding ding!I checked relief and it hasn't changed, but, I think that the weather has messed with my nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pope on a Rope Posted March 19, 2010 Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 Ahhh, well, IIRC it improves when fretted, but lemme pull it off the wall to confirm that fact. Well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted March 19, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 You folks came up with several excellent suggestions. I think I'm gonna buy one of those Stew Mac nut kits, because everything seems to be pointing to the nut. Graphite gives me the most headaches (I have three guitars with graphite nuts). Bone works great, so does the plastic that Gibson uses. But with the weather we have in Colorado, I think that I should start making my own bone nuts for all of my guitars. [YOUTUBE]C2p9-9obYNI[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted March 19, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 Well? Yep, it does improve. NUTS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted March 19, 2010 Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 I've experienced this several times and the odd thing is, it's NEVER EVER a strat. It's always an LP-ish guitar with one of their wider nuts. I tend to be pretty handy at keeping nuts in good condition (I'm slightly embarrassed to even type that ) but I've experienced that on maybe 5 different guitars and it's almost always on JUST the high E. I usually just open the slot a tiny bit with some fine grain sandpaper doubled over.It's a bummer that it's your Elliot Easton. That's one of my very favorite guitars on the forum. I'm not a Gretsch guy, I'm not a Bigsby guy and I'd pretty much never go out of my way to get a green guitar, but like the Dude's rug, it really pulls everything together and as I've said probably 20 times, the rhythm tone on that one original song through the 1974X is one of my favorite rhythm tones ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pope on a Rope Posted March 19, 2010 Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 Yep, it does improve. NUTS! Sounds like nuts is your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted March 19, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 19, 2010 I've experienced this several times and the odd thing is, it's NEVER EVER a strat. It's always an LP-ish guitar with one of their wider nuts. I tend to be pretty handy at keeping nuts in good condition (I'm slightly embarrassed to even type that ) but I've experienced that on maybe 5 different guitars and it's almost always on JUST the high E. I usually just open the slot a tiny bit with some fine grain sandpaper doubled over. It's a bummer that it's your Elliot Easton. That's one of my very favorite guitars on the forum. I'm not a Gretsch guy, I'm not a Bigsby guy and I'd pretty much never go out of my way to get a green guitar, but like the Dude's rug, it really pulls everything together and as I've said probably 20 times, the rhythm tone on that one original song through the 1974X is one of my favorite rhythm tones ever. Thanks, and I agree with your assessment. What happens when the nut is too wide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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