Members tweak'd Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 There are two different ways to look at a player with lots of guitars. The most common perception is the one stated by that dolt you met...buying lots of guitars in the hope that the next one will make you better. The second is buying lots of guitars because you're so good, with so many different styles and techniques in your repertoire, that you need a number of different guitars at your disposal in order to properly express them all. Oh...and you have alot of disposable income as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BryanMichael Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 For the record I own 16 guitars.... Some history of my experiences with other activities... I played Div1 tennis I play to a low single digit in Golf GENERALLY, the people cared the most about their equipment were the crappiest players.... This seems to be the point of the original person as well- I think in many ways this is true. As someone that USED to be a gigging musician for 12 years (as a bassist) I bought one good bass, a nice amp, a ZOOM bass effects pedal (for some covers I needed some effects) a wireless unit and that was it. I was happy as hell for 12 years with my ONE "good guitar"(bass) and now that I am fully a "hobby" musician, I love to buy, sell, trade, and otherwise swap guitars and gear- mostly because I'm not getting better as a player, so I might as well enjoy my limited skills in as many ways possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scuzzo Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 it runs to both ends of the spectrum.. the very best player i know personally only has 3 guitars.. and he says he will never buy another one... the worse player i know of is about to buy a new strat after buying a few gibbys and a whole {censored} load of other guitars.. he just dose not have it.. he has no music in his soul and just tries to improve by buying it.. i never assume any more that the cat a lot of guitars is a better player.. not any more not after the internet.. but i also know a few cats who buy lots of gear and can play.. but they dont get hung up on gear.. they play.. so you never know... but dont assume just because some cat has stacks of wood and wire he plays.. some folks just like to look the part.. and talk the game.. know all the buzz words and take pretty photos.. the is no correlation.. not that i can tell.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benzem Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 What would he think of guys with more than 20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sh944 Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 I play what I want to play, and I play it how I want to play it. {censored} anyone that wants to tell me differently. Y'all really care that much about what someone else, particulary a stranger, has to say? There are much better players than me, likewise, I am much better than others, but as long as I can express/convey or release the emotion I want out of my instruments, what exactly does all that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benzem Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 funny how the photos posted show dudes with pretty much the same guitars (all of whom are rich rockstars) but the overwhelming argument is for different "tones."gimme a {censored}in break. unless you're in some crappy cover band, you only need your own "tone." and if you're in some crappy cover band ... well, god help you. that must be incredibly boring. Not necessarily. Crappy original bands can be even more boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AzCat Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 I have a talent for finding really good guitars at really good prices . . . and then playing them really badly. Yesssssss ... I resemble that remark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar Heel Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 Considering how many guitars I have, compared to an utter lack of talent, that guy may be on to something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aliensporebomb Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 I've got four electrics and two acoustics and a bass. I've been playing for 32 years though and many of them have different aspects to their sound that none of them are really duplicates. -passive single/double coil strat-active single/double coil set neck strat-passive low output les paul style with coil taps/phase split-hexaphonic pickup for connection to guitar-to-midi/v guitar modules-high output passive double coil neck thru-piezo acoustic All of these flavors are different and come up with a lot of different tones. But you'd be surprised how much I fixate on one guitar and months and work on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brewski Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 Some people like to make stupid generalizations. I resemble that remark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Arr0wHead Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 Some folks in this thread need to understand formal logic. Saying that a player who has many guitar is a crappy player does not mean that a person who has one guitar is a good player -- he can still be a crappy player. This is the difference between 'if' and 'only if' statements.I personally am of the camp that those with lots of guitars, who are not professional players (Rich Robinson and Slash can have as many guitars as they want) tend to be, on average, not so stellar as players. I say this as the owner of several guitars. I like buying guitars and playing and getting different sounds, but this is not playing guitar -- it's a slightly different hobby. It makes sense that the person who dedicates all his resources to playing the guitar will be a better player than the person whose resources are divided amongst playing, reading gear reviews, buying, selling, changing pickups, etc. No way, I disagree. Knowing how to care for and set-up the instrument you use if pretty much PART of being a good player. If you don't know how to adjust action, how do you know what you prefer? If you don't have pickups that carry the spectrum of sound you want, how long can you continue practicing and NOT getting the sounds you're striving for? Can people get caught up in the wrong details and lose track of developing as players? YES. But making the jump from that to considering it an IF=THEN type statement, you're nuts. I highly doubt the two are that closely linked or related. I know a LOT of guys who can't tune, change pickups, adjust action, intonate, change strings (yup, some people can't even do that), and own only one guitar. And guess what? Most of them are crappy guitarists with out of tune, flat, dull sounding guitars that are poorly intonated. And they practice rarely because of it. The two are not really related. Some people focus and apply themselves, some don't. Some like the tech and gear aspect of the art. Some don't. The two are absolutely positively NOT RELATED IN ANY WAY AT ALL! There are some lazy guys who don't practice with 30 guitars who suck, and there are guys who had one guitar for 30 years who don't practice and ALSO suck. And vice versa, there are some damned good player (DAMNED GOOD - OP anyone?) with a whole {censored}load of guitars who still work their ass off and practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Arr0wHead Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 My guess is there were ~50 in the audience... three of them were looking at each other with a 'WTF?' look on their faces and everyone else was clueless to the tragedy that was occurring mere feet in front of them. WRONG - this concert was genius marketing: Note they're playing outside a music store. As soon as the potential crowd heard the band, they all WENT INSIDE SHOPPING to get away from the band. Or better yet, the band started playing AFTER the customers entered the store, so now they have 200 shoppers trapped inside that are afraid of walking out of that store. I heard some guy bought 5 drumkits that day, because every time he went to walk out the door the band would launch into another one of his favorite songs. The store made MILLIONS that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Arr0wHead Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 ill tell you what sonny, you fix that sloppy, stumbly, out of time intro on "that think you like" from your bands website THEN you can tell me how many guitars and what bands im allowed.Nothing is worse than the hotshot know it all guitarist (that isnt half as good as they think they are) I see nothing wrong with his timing on that song. Maybe because Aenimated is the drummer? Learn to spell "Thing" before you talk down to someone. Illiteracy always makes you look stupid, in writing. I'm sure in person you're perfectly eloquent. Oh, and he's right. I bought a bazillion guitars thinking I needed a broad palette of tones. Then I threw the same pickups and hardware on 90% of em, and even now I'll do recording sessions where weeks later I can't remember which guitar I used, and couldn't tell by listening to it at all. Some guitars have a more noticeable difference than others, but most good players have such a developed style that most anything they play will have a pretty similar tone, barring the difference between single coils and buckers, etc.... I'm not claiming to be a great player, by any means, but I'm more likely to say I bought my guitars because the change of scenery is inspiring. It's not like there's some magical tone none of my guitars can get that forced me to buy a new one. As long as you got a guitar with singles, a guitar with buckers, and maybe a guitar with some p-90's, you can get most any tone you'll ever need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members artiem Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 WRONG - this concert was genius marketing: Note they're playing outside a music store. As soon as the potential crowd heard the band, they all WENT INSIDE SHOPPING to get away from the band. Or better yet, the band started playing AFTER the customers entered the store, so now they have 200 shoppers trapped inside that are afraid of walking out of that store. I heard some guy bought 5 drumkits that day, because every time he went to walk out the door the band would launch into another one of his favorite songs. The store made MILLIONS that day.LOLz...this may well be the most coherent explanation for that video yet offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Tele Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 Leo Fender didnt even play guitar and his name is on literally MILLIONS of guitars. what does this mean? I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fenezz Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 and hope the new guitars will make them play better. I would have punched him right in the beezer with my talentless hands .... but I had a Musicians Friend catalog in em at the time.... Hah..You could make the same statement and replace the "people who have more than one good guitar" part with "people with no tattoos", or "people under 6 ft tall", or "people who like budweiser",,etc,, and you would ruffle some feathers. And you could reverse all of the above and accomplish the same thing :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jrockbridge Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 The 'one good guitar' guy sounds like a philosopher. People who spend their time spouting philosophy are doomed to remain unknown for their guitar talent. Here's some more guitar philosophy.... Guitars are like potato chips, it's really hard to have just one. People who can't afford more than one guitar are often jealous of people who can afford many. Natural guitar talent helps, but hard work can get you pretty far. People with lots of woodshedding time tend to seem more talented. If you play guitar because it makes you happy, you are doing it for the best reason. People should be able to spend their money as they see fit, so if buying guitars puts a smile on your face, you probably live a happy life. Don't let other people get you down about buying guitars. It doesn't matter if shopping, playing or both make you happy. If you buying a guitar makes other people uncomfortable, that's their problem, not yours. We all have the right to live our lives the way we please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ashasha Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 The person who said this is absolutely right. The watermark for talent vs no talent is 9 guitars as that is how many I own right now. Seriously though how do you explain people like Slash or Richards or anyone with hundreds of them? People buy more guitars because they can and they enjoy them. It's about the same as saying that guys with lots of cars can't drive; it's a culture of collecting to a point and it's something for enjoyment. I play every one of my guitars and each fits a specific sonic area that I enjoy. None of them make me better and I know that going into it. Sounds like Douchey McGee is broke and is jealous and is trying to make himself feel better for being broke. You should have told him that people that drop out of school only have one guitar because they're jealous broke asses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 where did mine come from? from being a {censored}ing rockstar developer. I chuckled. I'm going to use that line at the end of an obviously failed job interview at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fireproof777 Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 My guitars get none of the credit, but all of the blame for my hacking abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Tele Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 WINNING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members big_aug Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 I think the guy is wrong, but I think there is some validity to what he is saying. The folks who claim they need 10-20+ guitars to cover all the sonic bases are just delusional I think. I feel like you could get almost ANY sound you want with like 5 guitars. That said, it doesn't mean you suck if you own 20 guitars. It just means you are also interested in collecting the guitars as well as playing them. And I would also bet what the guy said is much more valid at places like Harmony Central, The Gear Page, Rig Talk, etc. There are probably WAY more people on these forums who suck and have lots of guitars. I'm sure there are a lot of really great players here, but I'm sure there are are more players who suck and read gear reviews and keep buying {censored} too. For the record, I have one guitar and I kind of suck. I've bought and sold a few guitars just because its fun to get a new guitar. It keeps it fresh and makes practicing easier. I've never really bought/sold a guitar because I didn't like the sound of the one I had. I've also never bought a guitar in person. Every guitar I've purchased was via the internet, so I'm sure that factors in a little to my moving onto the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chumer Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 I practiced the most when I had only one good electric guitar...now I have lots of gear but spend more time noodling with it and less time practicing. Multiple guitars and tons of toys are really fun, but can be a distraction from the playing itself. Just like posting on HC as opposed to arpeggiating the Mixolydian mode in thirds over the entire neck ascending then descending etc etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LesPaulFetish Posted March 6, 2011 Members Share Posted March 6, 2011 Ehh... Whatever makes that guy happy. Personally, I don't see myself owning Bbreaker amount of guitars, but definately multiple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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