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What's up with all the EVH lovers here? To me he is just a glorified tap guitarist.

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As a gigging guitarist back in the late 70s, when Van Halen I came out, the rules CHANGED. It's as simple as that. I lost interest after the first two records but Ed's impact was undeniable. Never left any appreciable space in his solos but his passion was very inspiring. His rhythm playing is on a par with ANYONE'S. I rarely listen to VH these days but I'm saddened by Ed's current condition.

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Eds guitar playing is legendary for sure. He has written some of the coolest riffs in history but as a person ED is a dick. Seriously, just ask Mikey and Sammy and DLR after the new CD flops and the new tour goes awry when ED falls off the wagon.

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Eds guitar playing is legendary for sure. He has written some of the coolest riffs in history but as a person ED is a dick. Seriously, just ask Mikey and Sammy and DLR after the new CD flops and the new tour goes awry when ED falls off the wagon.

 

 

Well...I can't REALLY ask Mikey or Sammy but I can ask you!

 

So...?...

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I'm 48 so I know more
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Would you agree that EVH is one of the most instantly recognizable sounds? I would agree there is no one more proficient with a
Strat
whammy than Beck, but how about a modern trem? Can you name other guitarists who play rhythm in Eddie's style before or since, where you're not sure who it is ?


In contrast, go listen to some Yardbirds and for each song determine if it's Eric, Jimmy, or Jeff. It takes a good listen on many tracks to be sure.


I think these things together put Eddie in that class of "no one like him"



I would say the same about Jeff Beck...

I can pick Jeff Beck out of just about anything with his sound, Yardbirds, Tridents, solo stuff, session work. To me he has one of the most instantly recognizable sounds ever.

Have to admit I am not a huge EVH fan, so no I wouldn't be able to recognize him, for instance I had no idea he did the solo on Thriller, was shocked when I heard that... After someone told me that, I was like oh yeah that is EVH, but originally had no idea... So I have to say no I wouldn't agree to me no he isn't instantly recognizable... I know a VH song when I hear it mainly when Sammy or DLR is singing... Sorry and not trying to be disagreeable, just being honest with you.

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For reals, player?

 

 

Honestly yeah... One of my non guitar playing friends told me that and at first I thought he was full of crap. Like EVH with MJ, get out of town... For EVH fans they think everyone hears him the same way they do, like I hear Jeff Beck.. The other post mentioned how he couldn't tell Jimi, Eric or Jeff with the Yardbirds without a couple listens, to me that is laughable... I can so tell Jeff in a heartbeat, but I am a Jeff Beck fan...

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Honestly yeah... One of my non guitar playing friends told me that and at first I thought he was full of crap. Like EVH with MJ, get out of town... For EVH fans they think everyone hears him the same way they do, like I hear Jeff Beck.. The other post mentioned how he couldn't tell Jimi, Eric or Jeff with the Yardbirds without a couple listens, to me that is laughable... I can so tell Jeff in a heartbeat, but I am a Jeff Beck fan...



That was me. Interesting, difference in what we can hear for sure. I would say post-birds Beck is instantaneously recognizable, and I'll tell you what...

Beck was confined by the scope of the Yardbirds music as much as Eddie was a hired hand for Michael Jackson. But put them in their own creative space and you know exactly who they are.

And I'll assume that was a typo, but just to be safe Jimmy was in the Yardbirds, not Jimi :D

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I was never a big EVH fan.


But I'll give him his do.


His earliest albums were one of those course-changing moments in rock, everything changed His style and tone influenced everything that came after him, in almost every guitar-oriented genre; but in hard rock and metal, the pre-EVH and post-EVH divide is massively obvious. Stuff people take for granted now, or find cliche, all started with him. The technique, talent and very populous-oriented songwriting was just the right thing at the right time.

 

 

 

I like to think that EVH's appearance on the scene made me stand out from the crowd. For better or for worse.

 

It still does.

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... Sure, tapping is fun, but it's a gimmick these days...

 

 

Tapping is a gimmick but Eddie used it, along with other techniques, to play real music.

 

As I mentioned in an earlier post, it was the lame imitators who got the trick but could not use it in a musical context that made me grow tired of it in the '80s.

 

Some players, like Nuno, got it and ran with it. Pornograffitti is a great example of a guy who was gonna create music on his guitar and learned a few things from Eddie along the way and incorporated them very well.

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It's not always just what a player did, it's when they did it that makes them so special and why people hold them in such high regard. I put Clapton in this category, too.

EVH is a killer rhythm guitar player as well, so I wouldn't say he's a "glorified tap guitarist" at all.

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Yes - that's about the level of intelligence on this forum. I consider it an honour that you should call me a {censored}head. I still think Van Halen is a pile of {censored}.

 

 

You just insulted everyone on the forum.

 

{censored} you.

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Van Halen = cliched bollox. Just the kind of wank people would love on here.

 

 

I won't call you a name, but that's just foolish. I said before I don't even like the band Van Halen. But what Eddie Van Halen did became a cliche only after he did it and a generation of players copied it.

 

Now if you want cliches, just listen to "blues" guitarists like Clapton and Page, whose whole musical existence was built on a style that they devoted themselves to copying.

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