Members misterhinkydink Posted July 14, 2006 Members Share Posted July 14, 2006 Originally posted by lug Why during the Russian invasion of Afganistan, costing Russia a WHOLE {censored}epile of money and further bankrupting them, thanks for bringing up the point. So it was Osama Bin Laden who really caused the collapse of the Soviet Union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bholder Posted July 14, 2006 Members Share Posted July 14, 2006 Originally posted by lug Once again...I BLAME BUSH! It's the other one, this time, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted July 14, 2006 Members Share Posted July 14, 2006 Originally posted by misterhinkydink So it was Osama Bin Laden who really caused the collapse of the Soviet Union. No, he was just an integral piece of the plan Reagan dreamed up whilst napping. And you thought those naps were a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hawkhuff Posted July 14, 2006 Members Share Posted July 14, 2006 Originally posted by Mudbass Nope, it was Clinton. President Clinton elected to rely on former President Jimmy Carter and decided to appease the Marxist-Stalinist dictatorship. Carter met with North Korean leader Kim Jong-il in Pyongyang and returned to America waving a piece of paper and declaring peace in our time. Kim, according to Carter, had agreed to stop his nuclear weapons development. The Clinton appeasement program for North Korea included hundreds of millions of dollars in aid, food, oil and even a nuclear reactor. However, the agreement was flawed and lacked even the most informal means of verification. In return, Kim elected to starve his people while using the American aid to build uranium bombs. Ya know, I didn't like any of these brokered deals at the time but in retrospect we had to try knowing full well we might be postponing the inevitable. There really is no negotiated peace without one party being vanquished. It's bee true since human history began.So, I guess Clinton and Carter had the right approach even though I never liked their policies at the time. They wanted to believe they could talk their way out of war and conflict. They were duped like I thought they would be at the time but God bless them for attempting to beat history and negotiate peace.Of course, now the CNN and PMSNBC crowds are blaming Bush for not paying enough attention to the region. Huh? The talking heads who say this need to be put back on their medication and stop eating those LSD blotters.I now think we're running out of options and time. Anyone who doesn't believe that Iran is behind this is only fooling themselves. I think everyone is worried about escalation but I believe escalation is inevitable.GO ISRAEL !! Kick some ass!{censored} the UN. :thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members misterhinkydink Posted July 14, 2006 Members Share Posted July 14, 2006 Originally posted by hawkhuff GO ISRAEL !! Kick some ass! {censored} the UN. :thu: I'm pulling for Hezzbollah/Hamas in a kind of come-from-behind cinderella story kind of way. :thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted July 14, 2006 Members Share Posted July 14, 2006 Originally posted by Crescent Seven I'm not counting on anybody to have our backs if the {censored} hits the fan. C7 Also true. But just like Denis Leary says, "We got the bombs, okay?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mudbass Posted July 14, 2006 Members Share Posted July 14, 2006 Originally posted by hawkhuff Ya know, I didn't like any of these brokered deals at the time but in retrospect we had to try knowing full well we might be postponing the inevitable. There really is no negotiated peace without one party being vanquished. It's bee true since human history began. So, I guess Clinton and Carter had the right approach even though I never liked their policies at the time. They wanted to believe they could talk their way out of war and conflict. They were duped like I thought they would be at the time but God bless them for attempting to beat history and negotiate peace. Of course, now the CNN and PMSNBC crowds are blaming Bush for not paying enough attention to the region. Huh? The talking heads who say this need to be put back on their medication and stop eating those LSD blotters. I now think we're running out of options and time. Anyone who doesn't believe that Iran is behind this is only fooling themselves. I think everyone is worried about escalation but I believe escalation is inevitable. GO ISRAEL !! Kick some ass! {censored} the UN. :thu: The Neville Chamberlain approach never works. It was wrong in the 1930's, it was wrong with N. Korea and it's wrong for those who want to try it with Iran now. In a way, Clinton's attempt to appease N. Korea did more to shake up world security than the war in Iraq has. N. Korea now has nukes and Japan is sweating bullets. If Japan suspects in any way that the USA is unable or unwilling to protect them you can bet they will re-arm and possibly go nuclear themselves. Thanks Bubba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bringtherock Posted July 14, 2006 Members Share Posted July 14, 2006 Originally posted by misterhinkydink Is that Kim Jong-Il in the background?Edit: Too bad i wasn't there, i'm sure they all got slammed, did some lines, and had a hell of a party. It was the 80's.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bholder Posted July 14, 2006 Members Share Posted July 14, 2006 Originally posted by hawkhuff ... {censored} the UN. :thu: No, thanks, they're not "my type", either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted July 14, 2006 Members Share Posted July 14, 2006 Originally posted by bholder No, thanks, they're not "my type", either. Hey, if you're lookin' for ethnic variety, look no further than the United Nations.Where else you gonna nail a Kazakh and a Kiwi at the same time?C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thelurker Posted July 14, 2006 Members Share Posted July 14, 2006 Originally posted by Crescent Seven Hey, if you're lookin' for ethnic variety, look no further than the United Nations. Where else you gonna nail a Kazakh and a Kiwi at the same time? C7 Can you nail them in the kazoo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted July 14, 2006 Members Share Posted July 14, 2006 Originally posted by thelurker Can you nail them in the kazoo? Of Kourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bikehorn Posted July 14, 2006 Members Share Posted July 14, 2006 Originally posted by hawkhuff ...talking heads...LSD blotters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thelurker Posted July 14, 2006 Members Share Posted July 14, 2006 Originally posted by Crescent Seven Of Kourse. Kewl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bholder Posted July 14, 2006 Members Share Posted July 14, 2006 Originally posted by bikehorn Wrong album. I've got to go for Fear of Music's "Life During Wartime" for this event. Read this review of that album.... http://www.connollyco.com/discography/talking_heads/fear.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J. Posted July 15, 2006 Members Share Posted July 15, 2006 So, who here is eligible for the draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted July 15, 2006 Members Share Posted July 15, 2006 Originally posted by J. So, who here is eligible for the draft? Tail end of my eligibility, but they didn't let me join 10 years ago because of my feet, so I'm not sure if I'd get drafted or not. If it happened and they want to put me in a support/technical position, I'd do it. I know how to work on water pumps...C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members baracuda2004 Posted July 15, 2006 Members Share Posted July 15, 2006 Originally posted by J. So, who here is eligible for the draft? I have a slight heart-murmer(meaning it beats slightly irregular) so would that affect my chances??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members baracuda2004 Posted July 15, 2006 Members Share Posted July 15, 2006 oh and if you all get drafted.... all your bass are ours(meaning mine:D ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 82Daion Posted July 15, 2006 Members Share Posted July 15, 2006 Originally posted by J. So, who here is eligible for the draft? I am, probably, but I'd probably high-tail it to Canada first chance I got. Not a coward; just not willing to go to war for a pointless cause.Not to slight our military or our troops; they're doing a really good job in the situation they've been put into. But I couldn't rectify fighting for a false cause myself.Guess I'm just not that duty-minded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thumper Posted July 15, 2006 Members Share Posted July 15, 2006 Originally posted by J. So, who here is eligible for the draft? Check the Selective Service System website. http://www.sss.gov/WHHAP.HTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted July 15, 2006 Members Share Posted July 15, 2006 Originally posted by Thumper Check the Selective Service System website. http://www.sss.gov/WHHAP.HTM OK, I thought the draft went up to age 28, but apparently it's up to 26. I'm out.If you are drafted you can file for Consciencious Objector status, meaning that you can opt to fulfill your service in a civil position stateside, or in a non-combatant role. So you don't have to run to Canada, you can go fold blankets at the homeless shelter or something.C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thelurker Posted July 15, 2006 Members Share Posted July 15, 2006 Originally posted by Crescent Seven OK, I thought the draft went up to age 28, but apparently it's up to 26. I'm out. If you are drafted you can file for Consciencious Objector status, meaning that you can opt to fulfill your service in a civil position stateside, or in a non-combatant role. So you don't have to run to Canada, you can go fold blankets at the homeless shelter or something. C7 Uh, who exactly is being drafted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bass8987 Posted July 15, 2006 Members Share Posted July 15, 2006 Originally posted by J. So, who here is eligible for the draft? I am. In fact, I am at the age where if they started the draft this year, I would be the first ones chosen. I doubt the draft will happen, but if it does and I get drafted, I would gladly serve my country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ender_rpm Posted July 15, 2006 Members Share Posted July 15, 2006 Originally posted by Bass8987 I am. In fact, I am at the age where if they started the draft this year, I would be the first ones chosen. I doubt the draft will happen, but if it does and I get drafted, I would gladly serve my country So why not just join now? Get your choice of jobs, some bonus money, and if the {censored} breaks bad, you'll be first in line for promotions when the draftees come. At least thats been my theory all along (Been in Army 6 years, am in Qatar right now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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