Members bubbleboyjones Posted March 4, 2007 Members Share Posted March 4, 2007 The bass player in our band was thinking about getting one of these and I was wondering how this would hold up in gigging? It seems like the Carvin would be really pushed to the limit to keep up and would clip a lot. It would be up against two 50 watt tube Peavey Classic guitar amps . Any thoughts on the Carvin? http://www.carvin.com/products/single.php?ItemNumber=PB100-15&CID=PBS vs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Aussie Posted March 4, 2007 Members Share Posted March 4, 2007 Not a {censored}ing chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members modulusman Posted March 4, 2007 Members Share Posted March 4, 2007 I own the carvin pb100-15 and in my opinion it won't be loud enough. It is not a bad amp and actually sounds pretty good at low volumes. It might work for band rehearsals but it would definately need PA support for a live gig. If he has his heart set on carvin and he wants a combo he should look at the br615 or 610. or maybe brx line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bassopotamus Posted March 4, 2007 Members Share Posted March 4, 2007 Only if he can run a line out into the PA. 100 watts of bass insnt' all that much. I run 240 just to rehearse, and even that is not totally adequate with some drummers I've known. I'd do a search on these amps. I like carvin basses and have one of their speaker cabs, but I have heard rumors at least that the bass combos aren't real reliable. I also dont' know how accurate their power ratings are. I've heard claims that their speakers do not handle as much power as they are rated for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Billy-B Posted March 4, 2007 Members Share Posted March 4, 2007 Not a {censored}ing chance. Correct-a-mundo, amigo! This amp is just loud enough for practice. I'm glad I sold mine, I'd never buy another. Tell him to get an Ampeg combo. Billy-B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Aussie Posted March 4, 2007 Members Share Posted March 4, 2007 carvin. good geetars and basses medium speakers bad amps get a good secondhand peavey. HELL! you could be the Peavey band. Hartley likes when that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phaeton Posted March 4, 2007 Members Share Posted March 4, 2007 Ok.. So lemme ask- About how many watts should you be shopping for to have a gig-worthy amp? I mean not micing or running through the P.A.... a bass amp that can comfortably stand on its own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassman1956 Posted March 4, 2007 Members Share Posted March 4, 2007 Minimum: 200 watts all-tube amp, or 300 SS or hybrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members been_effected Posted March 4, 2007 Members Share Posted March 4, 2007 rule of thumb that I heard to comfortably be heard and not have to struggle to keep up, without plugging into the PA, is about 500W SS I always tend to overkill though, you can never have too much power at a gig, the more power you have and don't use, the more headroom you have and the cleaner/better the sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JeffBass Posted March 4, 2007 Members Share Posted March 4, 2007 With the EQ and compression you can coax some good volume out of it, but it is only 100watts so it is what it is. Mine has been a good rehersal amp for 3 years. It's actually a good deal louder than my friends Ampeg B15 (also 100w). The new Carvin's have more power. Go check out Carvin.com and look at the new combos. I bought my 100-15 for the sole purpose of rehearsals (leaving it the guitar players house) and it's been great for that. I would get something with 200w or better for gigging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mudbass Posted March 4, 2007 Members Share Posted March 4, 2007 Not a {censored}ing chance. That sums it up quite nicely I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Apendecto Posted March 5, 2007 Members Share Posted March 5, 2007 You could do a lot better. Yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TN.Frank Posted March 5, 2007 Members Share Posted March 5, 2007 A lot depends on how efficent the speaker is. Generally, minium is around 300 watts with "normal" speakers to get a decent volume level. Of course it also depends on where you'd be gigging at. A small coffee shop then you'd be ok but anything half way large and you'd be pushing it. My Ashdown (100watt/15")is pretty loud but if I were in a gig situation I'd want more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TN.Frank Posted March 5, 2007 Members Share Posted March 5, 2007 A lot depends on how efficent the speaker is. Generally, minium is around 300 watts with "normal" speakers to get a decent volume level. Of course it also depends on where you'd be gigging at. A small coffee shop then you'd be ok but anything half way large and you'd be pushing it. My Ashdown (100watt/15")is pretty loud but if I were in a gig situation I'd want more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted March 5, 2007 Members Share Posted March 5, 2007 He needs to save up for 300w and a 2x12. 100w would sound loud as {censored} in his bedroom, then he'd take it to rehearsal and it would be crying trying to keep up with the hi-hats, much less two guitars with 50w combos. The only way I would recommend something like that is if your drummer has a very, very light touch and everybody could turn down. At full potential volume, 100w SS combo would get annihilated. C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bubbleboyjones Posted March 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted March 6, 2007 Thanks for the responses So pretty much that amp isnt going to be cut it by any means which is what I suspected. I guess a min of 200-300 watts would be a good place to start for gigging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jannda Posted March 6, 2007 Members Share Posted March 6, 2007 I have 800 watts and sometimes I wonder if thats really enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thumper Posted March 6, 2007 Members Share Posted March 6, 2007 Nope. As a general rule of thumb, the bass amp has to have twice the power of everyone else's amps together. If you have two guitarists each playing 50 watt amps, you need at least 200 watts. You can even the odds by tweaking your EQ. I tend to boost the mids, so I have no trouble keeping up with a 50 watt Marshall half-stack and a 50 watt Fender Blues DeVille. A 200 watt tube Traynor YBA 200 will do that. I'd steer away from Carvin bass amps. They have a reputation for being long on nice specs, but over-rated in the power department. I'm guessing my old 12 watt Princeton guitar amp could have killed a 100 watt Carvin bass amp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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