Members SpaceNorman Posted February 9, 2012 Members Share Posted February 9, 2012 Reading all the comments about how dancers vs. listeners, packed rooms, and till rings all correlate to one another made me thinK about what I like for a moment. I've come to the conclusion that I love playing to packed rooms - but that as a patron, I rather go to the dentist than be a customer in most of the packed rooms we play at. I'd much rather spend my time and money at a corner bar with single or duo who are working to keep the handful of customers in the joint - while having a place to sit and listen, being served by a waitress who I didn't have shout at or grab to get an order places and drinking premium beer and liquer at a fraction of the prices being charges in the "popular" places. But hey, that's just me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted February 9, 2012 Members Share Posted February 9, 2012 Yep. Often times a club with a full dance floor that isn't selling enough drinks simply needs more cocktail waitresses. Ir just better ones that take care of business. Things can also get backed up at the bar. When service gets slow,, people start going up to the bar and the bar tender or tenders get double teamed between the wait staff and people pushing up to the bar and ordering drinks. Then the goat rodeo starts with people running tabs at the bar and their table. workin a bar room with a band playing makes communicaton hard and people are in and out of their seats. Its not an easy job. Good wait staff is hard to find. Many places go through a ton of them till they finally get keepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tim_7string Posted February 9, 2012 Members Share Posted February 9, 2012 By the way, last weekend I went to see a band play in the venue I'm booked in this weekend, a new one for us. It's a big place, sports bar like, quite nice with lots of pool tables on one side and the band on the other. We sat on the band side. My drummer, keyboard player, bass player and wife were with me. And it took us 15 minutes to get service. More people came in, and sat there waiting to get served. Some got up and left, other people went to the bar and asked for a server. The band took a break and I told them that I hadn't seen a cocktail waitress in over 20 minutes. Finally, the manager, who I'd never met before, came over and asked the band how it was going for them. I told him about the poor service and that I hoped it wouldn't be like that when we play there. I'm going to mention it again on Friday when we set up. The crowd was decent (for awhile, until they couldn't get a drink), they were responsive and dancing. Lots of times the ringout has nothing to do with how well the band does. I have seen a few places set up like this and have played some of them as well. Thankfully, my experience hasn't been quite the same. But it has happened too. It's almost like the place only sees half of their own bar and just caters to those people. I'd rather play places where the band can be seen in the room, no matter where you are in the bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sillypeoples Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 Maybe it's a pro move to say it's all about the cash, but no one plays for the till if it's really about the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlueStrat Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 Maybe it's a pro move to say it's all about the cash, but no one plays for the till if it's really about the money. Who said anything about playing for the till? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sillypeoples Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 Well I kept reading how everyone is spring loaded to hear what the bar made at the end of the night. If your not playing for the till, why does the ring out matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 Well I kept reading how everyone is spring loaded to hear what the bar made at the end of the night. If your not playing for the till, why does the ring out matter? So they'll want to hire you back because you helped make them a bunch of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sillypeoples Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 And you believe what they tell you they made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wardjames Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 And you believe what they tell you they made? I believe they're going to hire me back if they made more many than they did when other bands play. I don't really care if they give me audited financials for the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pinkfloydcramer61 Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 Sorry that I have not read every page of this thread, but my response to the OP is: Yes, sir, you are WRONG . In fact, I have calculated your wrongness quotient (on a scale of 1 to 10) at 7.5. Glad to be of help and please, keep me in consideration for any future wrongness calibrations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 And you believe what they tell you they made? It's not about getting an exact dollar amount, it's about getting more dates for hopefully more money. If you made them more money than the last band, they'll prefer to have YOU back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 And you believe what they tell you they made?who cares what they tell you. The club wants to make money. Therefore, they will book the bands who do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlueStrat Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 Well I kept reading how everyone is spring loaded to hear what the bar made at the end of the night. If your not playing for the till, why does the ring out matter? It matters because if the bars don't make money they don't hire bands. Even though I play for a set fee, the pay for the band has to come from somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlueStrat Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 And you believe what they tell you they made? I smell a certain robe-wearin' blues-jammin' doo-rag sportin' troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vanlatte Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 I smell a certain robe-wearin' blues-jammin' doo-rag sportin' troll. I too thought I recognized a familiar...odor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members New Trail Posted February 10, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 The cool thing is when at the end of the night the bar owner comes up to you with their appointment book and asks when they can have you back. THAT'S when you know you've had a good night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wheresgrant3 Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 And you believe what they tell you they made? It doesn't matter to me how much the bar made that night. My ultimate concern is how many heads did we draw. Body count. And the age, demographic we play to we can almost assign a $price$ per head.... but it's much easier to just count heads. It's not our job to squeeze money out of them, it's the bars responsibility (although it works best if you help)... our job is to draw them in and keep them there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sillypeoples Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 You can kill it here with 200 heads, and everyone buys only one drink because of the aggressively enforced DUI laws...200 x$3.50 a drink = $700 - $450 for the band..the bar lost money...but the door was good And we haven't even talked about dives in bad locations, bad management, bad pricing, bad sound, bad reputation, bad waitstaff, bad client Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wheresgrant3 Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 25000 posts? Have you ever been with a woman? Target identified! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members modulusman Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 25000 posts? Have you ever been with a woman? No he is too busy rubbin one out in the back yard while wearing a robe.:lol:Or maybe i have him confused with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vanlatte Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 25000 posts? Have you ever been with a woman? It's almost too easy any more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlueStrat Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 He still hasn't mastered eliminating his "tell," which is a dead giveaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sillypeoples Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 http://www.soundclick.com/bands/bizflyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlueStrat Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 http://www.soundclick.com/bands/bizflyer Do you play any actual songs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wardjames Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 I smell a certain robe-wearin' blues-jammin' doo-rag sportin' troll. I thought the same thing before I posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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