Members New Trail Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 A friend just got fired from their band. The band leader said "Don't come to the gigs anymore. I'll call you if I need you." I realize that I'm only hearing one side of the story, and there are probably lots of issues and/or problems that I don't know about.....however....... What's your take on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 Yeah, without further details it's impossible to really have an opinion on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vanlatte Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 Take on that? Childish and immature. Pretty crummy way to go about things based on the information provided. Actually, regardless of the whole story it still sounds like a poor way of handling things. Unless the member in question is violent or something, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tim_7string Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 The band leader said "Don't come to the gigs anymore. I'll call you if I need you." ....... What's your take on this? I would answer, "I won't bother to answer the phone. Have a nice day." (imagine this thumb is a different digit...) I'm pretty final when it comes to firing someone. I usually just tell them straight up that they are out and thank them for their time with the group. It's tougher when they are nice people (but just can't play very well). Assholes, liars and thieves are much easier. It's such a big sense of relief, much like emptying one's bowels after being 'stopped up' for a few days. I have been fired twice from bands, both were when I was younger. The first band just simply stopped calling me for practice ({censored} way out). With the second one, the immature bandleader called me at home, then told me to come to the practice house and "take your {censored} right now, or we'll just start throwing it out in the yard." This was also right before a Christmas gig. Nice, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J.Paul Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 I know of situations where people were dismissed for personal or character flaws. The band didn't want to seem supportive or want this to reflect on them. It's possible some kind of violence or stalker like weirdness could result in the band no wanting him or her at the shows. just guessing otherwise I say crash the gig and flyer the place with the shows of your new band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kmart Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 A friend just got fired from their band. The band leader said "Don't come to the gigs anymore. I'll call you if I need you."I realize that I'm only hearing one side of the story, and there are probably lots of issues and/or problems that I don't know about.....however.......What's your take on this? My take is it's not surprising or out of the ordinary at all. Musicians on both ends of the equation (or rather, people involved in inter-personal relationships and the dynamics that are in play) means anything is possible.That doesn't make it 'right' or preferable or whatever, but it is what it is. Move along; nothing to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpaceNorman Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 A friend just got fired from their band. The band leader said "Don't come to the gigs anymore. I'll call you if I need you."I realize that I'm only hearing one side of the story, and there are probably lots of issues and/or problems that I don't know about.....however.......What's your take on this? I learned a long time ago to never be surprised at how people behave once they know they no longer share a common future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gspointer Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 It depends on the kind of band to me. A name band leader that hires pro musicians, this wouldn't seem to me to be too far out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kramerguy Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 I'm a guy who is all about 'closure', I can handle anything coming to an end so long as I can at least get an explanation of "why". The explanation lacks, therefore I'd have asked him to elaborate a bit more if I was the guy getting fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members New Trail Posted February 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 I'm a guy who is all about 'closure', I can handle anything coming to an end so long as I can at least get an explanation of "why". The explanation lacks, therefore I'd have asked him to elaborate a bit more if I was the guy getting fired. It turns out that the bandleader fired my friend to rehire his brother, who he had fired to begin with to hire my friend!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ido1957 Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 Wouldn't it be reasonable for the bandleader to give him a few months notice and some form of severence to compensate for the future loss of his income? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpaceNorman Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 I'm a guy who is all about 'closure', I can handle anything coming to an end so long as I can at least get an explanation of "why". The explanation lacks, therefore I'd have asked him to elaborate a bit more if I was the guy getting fired. I've fired more than a couple bandmates over the years. If a situation makes it to the "firing" stage - I'm done talking and explaining. Rest assured that you would have been told in very specific terms what behaviors were a problem on several occasions before it got to the point that you were being fired. However, once the decision is made and it's time to pull the trigger - the actual "You're fired" talk isn't a discussion or an explanation. It's basically an announcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YeahDoIt Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 This reminds me of a guitarist that played Van Halen type solos with a country band. Their gig lasted about 45 minutes before they were fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members heath_eld Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 It turns out that the bandleader fired my friend to rehire his brother, who he had fired to begin with to hire my friend!... Sounds a bit unfair (and all over the place)... but within his rights and understandable... i dont know, my experience with bands has been pretty much subcontracting, and therefore can be fired at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FitchFY Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 Move along; nothing to see here. Like he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kramerguy Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 I've fired more than a couple bandmates over the years. If a situation makes it to the "firing" stage - I'm done talking and explaining. Rest assured that you would have been told in very specific terms what behaviors were a problem on several occasions before it got to the point that you were being fired. However, once the decision is made and it's time to pull the trigger - the actual "You're fired" talk isn't a discussion or an explanation. It's basically an announcement. yeah I was just speaking of the OP's situation where no warning or explanation appeared to be given. Now that he chimed in with the details, it makes more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members New Trail Posted February 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 yeah I was just speaking of the OP's situation where no warning or explanation appeared to be given. Now that he chimed in with the details, it makes more sense. I posted the details as soon as I knew them. (FWIW) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vanlatte Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 I've fired more than a couple bandmates over the years. If a situation makes it to the "firing" stage - I'm done talking and explaining. Rest assured that you would have been told in very specific terms what behaviors were a problem on several occasions before it got to the point that you were being fired. However, once the decision is made and it's time to pull the trigger - the actual "You're fired" talk isn't a discussion or an explanation. It's basically an announcement. Ideal, but from what I have seen and experienced this is far from the norm. We are talking about musicians here after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vanlatte Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 It turns out that the bandleader fired my friend to rehire his brother, who he had fired to begin with to hire my friend!... Jeebus, sounds like Melrose Place. Maybe your friend was the lucky one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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