Members Justaplayer Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 my latest incarnation: ** The Axcess unit switches the ADA MP-1 / Soldano SP-77 / Wylde Overdrive in/out signal chain. Okay that is out of control...Jesus....I love this stuff. I have been playing as a pro for 25 years in A bands and I have never used this much gear. Its cool, don't get me wrong, its just hard to take it all in. I use a messa 50 with a Keeley comp, and a few custom pedals... thats it. But I am a country lead player and that is all I need. Kudo's thats some impressive gear. I would love to rock the {censored} out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members XelderX Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 Flight cases is actually why I'm switching to a full rack-setup... I'd rather have a good 4-space shock rack with power amp + preamp than a head in a flight case... guess I'm just on the odd side. I used to run custom flight cases on my old Mesa stuff. I wouldn't have a problem doing that again, but I'm happy with the my new rack setup. Once I finalize it I'll be able to condense it down to a smaller case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members noelgrassy Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 donsimon76, Apparently they hung the rails without a tape measure or even a jaundiced eye! That right hand rail is easily 1/2" lower than the leffhain one. That's unacceptable for a company claiming to be in the business of building racks. Sorry to harsh your buzz. How do you like that 1U Mesa stereo amp? That thing looks perfect for a rack situation. Even better if one has to haultheir gear up stairs and {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HaloJem Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 Did you go and draw lines on the Soldano knobs? Why would you go and do that? You can't see white lines on off-white knobs? You need to know what your settings are or something? (I have been debating doing the same with mine.) What white lines ?? LOL True story ... methinks dots would have looked cleaner...NOT pulling out the white-out though ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members donsimon76 Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 donsimon76,Apparently they hung the rails without a tape measure or even a jaundiced eye! That right hand rail is easily 1/2" lower than the leffhain one. That's unacceptable for a company claiming to be in the business of building racks. Sorry to harsh your buzz.How do you like that 1U Mesa stereo amp? That thing looks perfect for a rack situation. Even better if one has to haultheir gear up stairs and {censored}. The price was good enough that I didn't care about it. I may fix it one of these days. It was one of their mass produced ones. It stays in one room in my house so . . . I think the Mesa 20/20 is great: nice sound, good volume (with enough to spare) for my usage needs and 1 rack space! Take into account, though, that I don't have too much experience with rack power amps. I just play at home so I needed something that would let me actually be able to move the volume knobs without going from too quiet to OH MY GOD MY EARS ARE BLEEDING. I don't remember specifics but I tried a 100 watt rack power amp and couldn't move the volume knob past .4 so it was difficult leveling the L and R channels. So far, everything has sounded good through the 20/20. I am happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HaloJem Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 Okay that is out of control...Jesus....I love this stuff. I have been playing as a pro for 25 years in A bands and I have never used this much gear. Its cool, don't get me wrong, its just hard to take it all in. I use a messa 50 with a Keeley comp, and a few custom pedals... thats it. But I am a country lead player and that is all I need. Kudo's thats some impressive gear. I would love to rock the {censored} out of it. My reply is not a hostile atall, but just asking a couple questions: 1. Justaplayer is right. He says the gear he has is 'all he needs'. For playing multiple styles - this setup is ALL I need. I can sound just fine w/o any FX and plug into a head & cab - pow, that's it. 2. What is excessive (perhaps space/weight issue) about this setup ? One boost pedal, 2 preamps, one massive power amp, a power conditioner, noise gate, strobe tuner, FX processor. switcher for preamps & pedal. Pretty straightforward, IMHO. The only "right rig" is the one YOU pick & choose for YOUR playing. People say to me "dude, you need a head" - its like, if I wanted one, I'd buy one. Who knows better than me what I need? Rant over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members donsimon76 Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 I can be one of the first to say that I have more equipment than I will ever "need". That goes for amps, guitars, etc. I could survive with 2 guitars (my Parker Nite Fly and Gibson Studio Premium Plus) and 1 amp. BUT I don't want to. So I surround myself with equipment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Justaplayer Posted May 22, 2009 Members Share Posted May 22, 2009 My reply is not a hostile atall, but just asking a couple questions: 1. Justaplayer is right. He says the gear he has is 'all he needs'. For playing multiple styles - this setup is ALL I need. I can sound just fine w/o any FX and plug into a head & cab - pow, that's it. 2. What is excessive (perhaps space/weight issue) about this setup ? One boost pedal, 2 preamps, one massive power amp, a power conditioner, noise gate, strobe tuner, FX processor. switcher for preamps & pedal. Pretty straightforward, IMHO. The only "right rig" is the one YOU pick & choose for YOUR playing. People say to me "dude, you need a head" - its like, if I wanted one, I'd buy one. Who knows better than me what I need? Rant over. Its not excessive if it is what you want. I think these rigs rock. Its just hard for an old road dog to get my head around it. I just could not use all that gear live, like I said because I have no application. And of course there is the weight and size thing. You can bet that when I am done touring around, I will have a rig like these in my basement. There is alot to technical expertise in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fumpy Posted May 25, 2009 Members Share Posted May 25, 2009 Rack Head Rackmount Concepts Head Case w/built in Power Conditioner Rocktron Patchmate (Front side fx switching) Rockman C/D Rocktron Xpression Engl e580 Engl e820 2x35 Watts Rack 2 Pearson 8 space rack case Midi Router Digitech IPS33 Furman M8 Power Conditoner Rocktron Patchmate (amp switching) ADA Microcab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rich7620 Posted May 28, 2009 Members Share Posted May 28, 2009 Well heres the start of mine just need small things like the actual rack LOL, also a power amp and power condtioner click for the bigger shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KidQuan Posted May 29, 2009 Members Share Posted May 29, 2009 nice stuff i want =] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members reilly Posted May 30, 2009 Members Share Posted May 30, 2009 Here is my simple setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J_Alexander Posted May 31, 2009 Members Share Posted May 31, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members XelderX Posted May 31, 2009 Members Share Posted May 31, 2009 ^^^ They don't have mics and PA systems on your planet? Just kidding...I used to have something similar to that...I got old and hated moving it around to every gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J_Alexander Posted May 31, 2009 Members Share Posted May 31, 2009 ah no problem. the sound you get from it is amazing. nothing better then the old w/d/w. it can be soft enough to play all night at home or loud enough that i cant stand in front of it. my dream rig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spacehog26 Posted June 14, 2009 Members Share Posted June 14, 2009 Now I've got my Effect Gizmo, and everything's wired up (and working), I thought I'd take and post some new rig pictures... so I took my camera up to church this morning (where my rig's currently set up) and snapped a few shots after the service. Full rig including two Laney GS212IE cabs (with Celestion Seventy 80 speakers) mic'd up with Sennheiser E606 mics. The 2U rack on the left isn't part of the guitar rig, but is the graphic EQ for the monitors at church and a 4-channel DI box. My two heads, a Peavey JSX and Triple XXX, both running at 60w. The JSX has EL34 tubes and the XXX has 6L6 tubes. The JSX powers the right cab; the XXX the left one (it's a straight stereo rig, not W/D or W/D/W or anything). My pedalboard (also the back lid of my 12U rack) - RJM Mastermind MIDI controller, Boss FV500H expression pedal, Morley Bad Horsie I wah pedal, Morley Little Alligator volume pedal, Pedalsnake system. Full view of the front of the rack. On the top shelf, there's a Marshall ED1 compressor (in the back), two Marshall BB2 bluesbreakers (one as a boost, one as an overdrive), a Marshall EH1 echohead (used for slapback) and a Marshall RG1 regenerator (used as a phaser). Not visible there are a Voodoo Labs Pedal Power AC and a Burkey Flatliner SIX power supply. In between the two pedal shelves are an ART PB4x4 Power Base distribution unit and a Korg DTR1000 tuner (not in the signal path - split off the RG-16's buffer). The lower shelf has a Boss AC2 acoustic simulator, a Keeley modified Boss DS1, a Monte Allums rectifier mod Boss DS1, a Rolls MX28 line mixer, and in the back a Samson S Mix mini mixer (mixes the sends of the two heads together) and a Burkey Flatliner Pro power supply. Next up come two Digitech GSP1101 processors, both running firmware version c48 from http://www.mustbebeta.com. The top one is connected both as a pre-amp processor (for overdrive etc modelling) and as a post-amp processor. The second is just used for post effects, as is the TC G Major that's below it. Controlling the whole rack are the RJM Music Effect Gizmo and RG-16 products - all but 4 loops are currently in use, switching in pedals, changing amp channels, and controlling the sends and returns to the amps and the processors. It also controls whether the G Major and the second GSP1101 are connected in parallel or series, which I can switch by activating both loops 9 and 10 on the Effect Gizmo simultaneously. Finally, a Samson S-Com 2-channel compressor / gate rounds out the rack - this is connected between the amp sends and the mini Samson mixer that feeds the effects processors - lightly compressed to smooth out signal peaks, but mostly used as a noise gate to keep the rig quiet when I'm not playing. In the back of the rack, there's also a MIDI Solutions Quadra-Thru box to maintain MIDI data integrity. I've not got any pictures of the back of the rack yet - next time I move it I'll take a couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wrathchild1 Posted June 26, 2009 Members Share Posted June 26, 2009 where did you get that midi pedal? ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spacehog26 Posted June 26, 2009 Members Share Posted June 26, 2009 where did you get that midi pedal? That's an RJM Music Mastermind controller. I got mine from Sounds Great here in the UK. For the money, I've not found a better MIDI controller... which doesn't mean that my Rocktron All Access' weren't great (still got one for sale), just I like the smaller footprint and the way it integrates with my RJM Music RG-16 and Effect Gizmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wrathchild1 Posted June 27, 2009 Members Share Posted June 27, 2009 That's an RJM Music Mastermind controller. I got mine from Sounds Great here in the UK. For the money, I've not found a better MIDI controller... which doesn't mean that my Rocktron All Access' weren't great (still got one for sale), just I like the smaller footprint and the way it integrates with my RJM Music RG-16 and Effect Gizmo. cool, good info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NyteOwl Posted June 30, 2009 Members Share Posted June 30, 2009 A work in progress... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rocklobsta1109 Posted July 1, 2009 Members Share Posted July 1, 2009 im glad to see my old monster power center found a good home next to the axe fx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hairydangler Posted July 5, 2009 Members Share Posted July 5, 2009 As some of you may already know, I've been revamping my effects rig. I use a combination of racks and pedals. I used to use an 18 space rig that I was able to whittle down to 10 spaces with the addition of a Boss GT-Pro and some new pedal choices. Here's a pic of my old rig... I had it wired with some George L cable that I soldered the connectors to. I used to use the solderless connections but after a year of heavy gigging and touring, they started coming loose. Anyway, I'm much happier with my new setup...it's much lighter and it takes up less space on the stage as well as less space in the van when we're on the road. So when I decided to revamp my setup, I thought I would improve the sound further by making some solid core cables from scratch. Some folks pay big bucks for solid core cables, but you can make them yourself so inexpensively, it's crazy. I started with 18 gauge solid core wire that I twisted to reject radio interference, wrapped in tin foil to shield the wire. Then I shrink tubed the foil wrapped wire, soldered the connectors and then filled in the space between the solder joints with epoxy to add additional strain relief and keep the contacts from coming together when bending the cable. The sonic benefits were incredible and they are virtually indestructible. Plus I could right angle bend them to keep the cable out of the way so I could reach in and adjust the knobs on the pedals. Here's the pic from the front... The rack interface I built myself from scratch. It features a guitar input, a MIDI in and a MIDI out, 3 audio feed throughs, a USB port for hooking up my Boss GT-Pro to my laptop, an expression pedal jack, 2 footswitch jacks and a left and right output (I run a stereo rig...the outputs connect to a pair of single channel amps...right now it's a pair of ValveTech heads into MojoTone "Marshall 2x12 cabs. Here's some closeups of the interface... At the bottom of my rack, behind a locked front panel are my Boss GT-Pro racks and a Master Room Spring Reverb unit shown below... Here is the back of the rack... One of the benefits of making your own cables is you can color code them to make sense of it all at a glance. The Yellow Cables are jumpers for the GCX switcher, the Red Cables are main audio connections, the Gray Cables are multi effects cables, and the Black Cables are pedal cables, and each of those have a red tag for the loop send/effect in and a white tag for the loop return/effect out. I was also able to color code my power cables on my DC Brick to make it easier to see which cable goes to which pedal. I also made an extender shelf out of plexi glass which I wrapped in Velcro...it fastens the shelf to the spring reverb unit and allows me to fasten the pedals to it. I drilled holes in it to run the power cables underneath it to keep them out of the way. Here's a close up of the effects which are all switched in and out with a Voodoo Lab GCX MIDI loop switcher...I'm using (in order of signal flow)... Keeley Comp -> Skreddy Top Fuel -> Skreddy Screwdriver -> Exotic BB Booster - Exotic RC Booster - Exotic AC Booster -> Keeley prototype Katana Clean Boost -> Boss GT-Pro. I had Exotic mod my RC/AC/BB boosters to run at 18 volts. The GT-Pro's stereo outputs go directly into my Roctron G-612 Mixer so that when the GCX switches it out of the signal path, the delays and reverb trails continue to spill over. The GT-Pro also has 3 loops which I use to switch my Master Room Spring Reverb Rack, my Analog Man Clone Chorus and my FoxRox Octron. Thats the one of most beautiful wiring jobs Ive ever seen. I should learn this skill of making my own cables, I hate paying for them and the spegetti is ridiculous... One of the reasons Im not a rack owner. And yes Goeorge Lynch cables will fail, and I suppose in a big rack with lots of cables, that could be a serious problem at a gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wrathchild1 Posted July 13, 2009 Members Share Posted July 13, 2009 heres a good start. the lexicon sig 284 is one of the best pre/power amps Ive heard. Next I'm moving to midi switching, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amarr1 Posted July 13, 2009 Members Share Posted July 13, 2009 stir it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jdr94 Posted July 19, 2009 Members Share Posted July 19, 2009 im almost embarrased to even show mine after all the awesome stuff in this thread but i got a G-major on the way and i've replaced the hush IIc with a Super C since this pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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