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What kluson tuners for this 40's J45?


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A distant relative just sold me his father's Gibson J45. The tuners are not original. I need you vintage experts to help me figure out which version of kluson tuners are correct.

 

I believe it is from late '45-'47 because it has the script decal (before '48) but lacks the "only a Gibson is good enough" banner (after mid '45).

 

Please correct me if you think I've dated it incorrectly.

 

It is a spruce top, mahogany back and sides, has a truss rod, and the narrow bridge.

 

Does it need open back kluson's with rivets? If you can post a pic of what the back of the tuners should look like I would appreciate it.

 

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Here's a pic courtesy of The Twelfth Fret:

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Other early 40's J-45's appear to have the same tuners. Kluson apparently doesn't make them any more but StewMac sells non-Kluson replacements: http://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and_Parts/Tuning_Machines/Solid_Peghead_Guitar_Tuning_Machines/Golden_Age_Restoration_Tuners_for_Solid_Peghead_Guitar_with_Scallop-end.html.

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Err' date=' biff the guitar and keep the tuners? Only thing worse than a Gibson acoustic is an old Gibson acoustic.[/quote']

 

:lol:

 

You're kidding, right? :lol: Have you ever even played a nice old Dove, J-200 or J45? I suppose people like Jeff Tweedy, Emmylou Harris, James Taylor, George Harrison and John Lennon, The Everly Brothers, Thom Yorke, Elvis, Sheryl Crowe and enough other artists that I could be here half the day naming them all use(d) Gibson acoustics because they have no musical value...

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Err' date=' biff the guitar and keep the tuners? Only thing worse than a Gibson acoustic is an old Gibson acoustic.[/quote']

 

heh heh... i missed out on playing some fine instruments for a similar attitude about martins... firewood, kindlin' maybe because it wouldnt burn very long... funny, now my fave 12 in the stable is a 74 martin d12.

but i didnt find it until i stopped caring about labels. nudge nudge...

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