Members Shamdog Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 Having an issue with my drummer's vocals. He sings mostly backup, but also trades off lead vocals on a few songs. However, when I try to bring his volume up, it all gets overpowered by the snare bleeding into his mic (SM58). He hits everything kinda hard, so that when I raise his level, all I get is drums. He is thinking about a headset mic. Would that help? Any other ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomm Williams Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 I'll answer this for most everyone---------Crown CM-311 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jeff grocki Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 Tomm is a wise wise man!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bobby1Note Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 I'll answer this for most everyone---------Crown CM-311 This,,,,,^ I ordered one a few weeks ago,,,it's still not in. Gettin' kinda worried. I hope I don't get the dreaded "this item is no longer available" message. My dealer assured me he could get one. (CM311-A) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shamdog Posted February 20, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 So, no way to adjust the SM58 a little different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomm Williams Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 You could do some experimenting with the location of the mic that may improve things a bit but you won't achieve the isolation of a good headset. Perhaps an overhead stand that brings the mic directly in front of him. Nice thing about a headset is he's free to move while singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shamdog Posted February 20, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 I sent him the link. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kmart Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 I'll answer this for most everyone---------Crown CM-311 That or Audix OM-7; that's what I switched to several months back based in part on advice I received here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shamdog Posted February 20, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 How do you have the OM-7 set up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Axisplayer Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 With the big end facing the singer of course. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members race81 Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 I use a sm57........just for the reason, I want minimum bleed from my kit to my mic....seems to work well for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kmart Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 With the big end facing the singer of course. ;-) This. ...and on a boom stand placed at roughly my 8 o'clock, with the arm coming at a slight downward angle across my body over my left shoulder (towards roughly my 1:30-2 o'clock). Mic is aimed (roughly) towards a spot just below my left eye so all I have to do to be right on it is lean forward a few inches at most and turn/tilt my head a tiny bit up and left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twostone Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 I'll answer this for most everyone---------Crown CM-311 Another vote for the Crown great FB rejection to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomm Williams Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 With the big end facing the singer of course. ;-) :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twostone Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 With the big end facing the singer of course. ;-) Yea this guy used his as a telephone LOL http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3b5_1234951642 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 I use a sm57........just for the reason, I want minimum bleed from my kit to my mic....seems to work well for me. Pretty much identical to the 58... so I would expect almost identical results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members race81 Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 I always thought the 57 was more directional..head on so to speak. I know if while playing if I veered off one side or the other, I would hear it from the sound guys. Ive tried a 58, it seems a little more forgiving if I get off the straight ahead a little more.Pretty much identical to the 58... so I would expect almost identical results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dogoth Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 I think the B-57 is a bit more directional. The original 57 has just about the same pattern as the 58. FWIW I like the B-57 for vocals (nice & bright - almost condenser like). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TimmyP Posted February 26, 2012 Members Share Posted February 26, 2012 The 57 seems more directional because if you are X" from the grill, you are closer to the capsule than with a 58. If you back off a bit, the old '6dB loss per doubling of distance' bites you more with a 57. But with the 57 you have a better voice-to-drums ratio. But you have more proximity effect to EQ out (but that gives you a better low-mid voice-to-drums ratio). Give me an OM7 or a CM311 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sharnrock Posted February 26, 2012 Members Share Posted February 26, 2012 I know in the studio I use comp to get snare out of overheads. I'll set the ratio really heavy and watch the GR meter while lowering the threshold. Once the cymbals start to compress I back it off. I can get the snare about 4-5 dbs lower. This might cause feedback though, I've never tried it live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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