Jump to content

OT: educate yourselves about oil and why we wage war.


Recommended Posts

  • Replies 181
  • Created
  • Last Reply
  • Members

Who needs plastic, we can use uhhhh......

 

 

hmmmm bio-polymers.

 

:thu:

 

 

People complain about the price of gasoline, little do they realise that the price of oil effects everything from the price of food to the price of consumer electronics.

 

Its amazing how much oil is now used in farming. 60 kjoules of oil energy is used to produce 1 kjoule of food energy.

 

Its ludicrious.

 

That has went up from a ratio of 1 to 1 in the last 40 years.

 

Its not how are we going to run our cars when the oil finally runs out, how the hell are we going to feed the ever growing pop?

 

:wave:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Originally posted by hempathy

Who needs plastic, we can use uhhhh......



hmmmm bio-polymers.


:thu:


People complain about the price of gasoline, little do they realise that the price of oil effects everything from the price of food to the price of consumer electronics.


Its amazing how much oil is now used in farming. 60 kjoules of oil energy is used to produce 1 kjoule of food energy.


Its ludicrious.


That has went up from a ratio of 1 to 1 in the last 40 years.


Its not how are we going to run our cars when the oil finally runs out, how the hell are we going to feed the ever growing pop?


:wave:

 

That is why I laugh when folks brag about biodiesel... It's still a net energy loss and does little for emissions. I think we'd be just as well off with turbine powered cars that can run off of anything from dirty dishwater to kerosene to Absolute vodka to jet fuel. One problem here is even at stops your burning as much fuel as you would going 85 mph. And thats why it is really hard to give a crap about anything other than just living life right now.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

 

Originally posted by zachary vex

it's neanderthal to pretend we live in a world without major changes happening within our lifetimes.

 

 

is there any reason you can't just put all this effort into what you believe might help and save your energy on the "sky is falling" crap?

 

me personally, I say bring on the changes! It's way too cold around here anyway and I could use some beachfront property near my house.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

 

Originally posted by booher

One war was waged in Afghanistan. Please note: {censored}ing Afghanistan. Mountains and sand. No oil.

 

 

 

Yeah- and we actuallly had a legitimate REASON to wage that war didn't we? Their government was supporting the people that ATTACKED the U.S.

Have you forgotten?

 

Have you forgotten that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11?

 

NOW- b ack to Iraq....what was our reason again??

 

WMD? Imminent threat? these were the reasons. "Possible link to Al-Qaida?" How many times did our president say this? Even after Bush admitted that "there was no link between Iraq and 9/11" Cheney (the next day!) was still flying that banner "possible (probable) link to Al Qaida"

 

This war is about oil, it's about redrawing the lines on the map in our favor, it's about alot of things- all of them economically motivated political moves. The key word is "economically motivated" It's about money when you strip it all away.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

 

Originally posted by zachary vex

it's neanderthal to pretend we live in a world without major changes happening within our lifetimes.

 

Yeah, like the end of the Cold War, which you guys lost. Ooops, I forgot you're still in neanderthalic denial about that.

 

Where's that Rove indictment?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Originally posted by Gristlefist


Yeah, like the end of the Cold War, which you guys lost. Ooops, I forgot you're still in neanderthalic denial about that.


Where's that Rove indictment?

 

ZVex lost the Cold War? I thought we won... you know, the end of fascisim in Europe, rigged elections, etc...

 

Oh that's right! We DID lose! Fascism was re-born here in the USA....with a rigged election. thanks for reminding me.

 

:thu:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

 

Originally posted by BryanMichael

I thought we won... you know, the end of fascisim in Europe, rigged elections, etc...


Oh that's right! We DID lose! Fascism was re-born here in the USA....with a rigged election. thanks for reminding me.

 

You Lefties don't like to be reminded that Fascism is Socialism. "Nazi" = "National Socialist German Workers Party." And yes, we killed that too.

 

But where's that Rove indictment? Does this oil propaganda have a better basis in fact than that story? Or the Dan Rather forged documents? Or Global Warming or Socialism or second-hand smoke? Man, you guys will believe anything . . .

 

. . . well, anything that's anti-American, anti-Capitalist or anti-balls.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


×
×
  • Create New...