Members Fine_Young_Fool Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 So I got a Big Muff Pi NYC Reissue for christmas yesterday (weird divorced parents thing). Anyway, I was have a really hard time dialing a good tone in with it, but I finally did. I could do the White Stripes/Black Keys thing easily. However, I tried palm muting, and it sounds like total crap. This is quite a problem, because I want to do a Sleep/Kyuss thing, and can't ge the tone I want for those. But for the others it great. Also, I can only play on the bridge pup, cause the neck sound so bassy and muffled, it makes it seem like my amps is going to self destruct. Help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bedtime Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 thats pretty much the nature of a muff dude. (dont lynch me tone gods) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lukeswall Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 the best tones on my muff come from the tone knob all the way to the left or around 1 o'clock. palm mutes sound cool on the first setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members C Fuzz Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 My first Muff I had sitting in the box for over a year becuase I had the same complaints as you. You seriously have to play the muff, You must alter your style a bit, as with a lot of dirt pedals, differant ones make you play in a differant way. And you can palm mute with a muff and it sounds great, just not in the "traditional metal chug" way. BTW... Sleep used cranked Oranges on Holy Mountain then cranked Green Matamps on Jerusalem/Dopesmoker. No Muff there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tsquared Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 boost it with some sort of boost/overdrive, should tighten it up a bit for palm mutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members comfortablynumb Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 Yeah. I run mine into an overdrive and using single coils, the low end chunk when palm muting is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Urinate Forever Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 turn the sustain WAY down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members anti-flag193 Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 Muff don't palm mute well. Get a fuzzface type fuzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Liberty Belle Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 So I got a Big Muff Pi NYC Reissue for christmas yesterday (weird divorced parents thing). Anyway, I was have a really hard time dialing a good tone in with it, but I finally did. I could do the White Stripes/Black Keys thing easily. However, I tried palm muting, and it sounds like total crap. This is quite a problem, because I want to do a Sleep/Kyuss thing, and can't ge the tone I want for those. But for the others it great. Also, I can only play on the bridge pup, cause the neck sound so bassy and muffled, it makes it seem like my amps is going to self destruct.Help! you just describes exactly how muffs work man! i wish they muted as well but they dont or wont.metal muffs chuga mute but they sound more like a distortion than a muff. ya cant win man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SG dan Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 tis the nature of the muff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rocket Roll Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 ...I want to do a Sleep/Kyuss thing... Wasn't Kyuss (essentialy) a Japanese Boss DS-1 (into an Ampeg)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pedalboard Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 It's a sustainer. It doesn't cut off the signal well for muting. That's what you do when you mute - you try to cut off the signal quickly for a chugging sound. This isn't what the pedal is designed for. I use mine with the tone control no higher than 1 o clock and when I lay it back to lower than 11 o clock with the sustain past 1 o clock, I get some nice sustained lead tones with my bridge humbucker - David Gilmour style. You'll grow to like it - I promise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 6StrngStrangler Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 It's a FUZZZZZZ Pedal, it's not supposed to Palm Mute.:poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members arcarsenal72 Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 I've experienced the same tell her to shave it ... I love the endless muff jokes. Priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blackjack davey Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 My favorite setting on the NYC is volume to taste and both Tone & Sustain at 1 o'clock. Ironically, those are the same as Jack White's. Its very clear and ringing without all the mud Fuzz which Muffs are known for. Oh, and if you really want to nail a palm mute on a Muff and/or kill the sustain when you stop playing a note just add an EQ (with slightly boosted Mids) and viola! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoirAbattoir Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 If you want to palm mute, get a Green Russian muff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Holey Lint Trap Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 Tone at 1 and Sustain at 4 equals fun for me! Really nice and heavy especially played on a neck pickup. My neck pickup is a little 59er with the pins screwed all the way down so it is very muffled but begins to sound like a synth/bass. Awesome. Palm muting can be done with my setup but I prefer the wall of sound anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Welladjusted Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 boost it with some sort of boost/overdrive, should tighten it up a bit for palm mutes. +1. Just get an EHX LPB-1. They're cheap enough there's no real reason not to own one. Makes me wonder why I still don't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KjStrat62 Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 Tis the nature of the MUFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ComingApart Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 If you want to palm mute, get a Green Russian muff. TROOF!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Liberty Belle Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 best sounds on a muff come with tone at 10- 11 oclock and sustain on full.this is the violin sustaining sound people talk about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted December 27, 2007 Members Share Posted December 27, 2007 Reissue muffs are like that. Some of the available kits can produce a riffable muff with nice palm muting sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fine_Young_Fool Posted December 27, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 27, 2007 Thanks guys, I have it figured out now. However, I am sending it back for the LBM, this thing is just too big for the board! I will learn to love it, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blackjack davey Posted December 28, 2007 Members Share Posted December 28, 2007 Be mindful that the LBM is a lot darker and bassier than the NYC. It falls somewhere inbetween a Russian and NYC and the knobs (especially the volume) are extremely touchy. If you like the tone of the NYC but don't like the size you might want to consider a Rehouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted December 28, 2007 Members Share Posted December 28, 2007 I've experienced the same tell her to shave it ... :thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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