Members Phananganang Posted June 9, 2008 Members Share Posted June 9, 2008 I've used a Boss TU-2 for years but find I usually have to tune a little by ear too. Been thinking of getting a Peterson. Any other suggestions, especially for less $$$ than the StroboStomp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ambient Exposure Posted June 9, 2008 Members Share Posted June 9, 2008 Pitch Black seems to be the new flavor of the month.The TU-2 is more then fine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BandofThievesâ„¢ Posted June 9, 2008 Members Share Posted June 9, 2008 TU-2 is fine. I use one on my board.Other guitarist uses a Conn Strobe Tuner and I also have a Peterson Strobe Tuner.. Check your intonation..Good Luck.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mind_Riot89 Posted June 9, 2008 Members Share Posted June 9, 2008 Pitchblack is accurate +/- 1 cent, whilst the TU-2 is +/- 3 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Pitchblack is accurate +/- 1 cent, whilst the TU-2 is +/- 3 cents. And the Peterson is +/- 0.1 cent IIRC. IOW, good enough to use for intonating a guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kpd78 Posted June 9, 2008 Members Share Posted June 9, 2008 Korg DT-10 is also accurate to +/-1cent like the newer Pitchblack. the TU-2 is good enough for a lot of people, and just because you're tuning to +/-3cents DOESN'T mean you're going to be 3 cents out of tune.like what was said above, check your intonation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BandofThievesâ„¢ Posted June 9, 2008 Members Share Posted June 9, 2008 NOTE If you can hear the +/- % between all these tuners you should give up guitar and become a Piano Tuner by Trade.. pays very well:poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members archofmusic Posted June 9, 2008 Members Share Posted June 9, 2008 Specs Say: Display Resolution: +/-1 cent, +/-5 cent. Which one is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phananganang Posted June 9, 2008 Author Members Share Posted June 9, 2008 I'm a total nut about intonation. I check it on my buddy's strobe tuner just about every time I change strings. And I'm always filing and filling nuts, when I've filed too deep. I've been setting up guitars for a long time, and we all know there is no such thing as perfect intonation. I'm sure part of my problem is that I prefer vintage style Kluson tuners. Thanks for the specs on the tuners guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BandofThievesâ„¢ Posted June 9, 2008 Members Share Posted June 9, 2008 I'm a total nut about intonation. I check it on my buddy's strobe tuner just about every time I change strings. And I'm always filing and filling nuts, when I've filed too deep. I've been setting up guitars for a long time, and we all know there is no such thing as perfect intonation. I'm sure part of my problem is that I prefer vintage style Kluson tuners. Thanks for the specs on the tuners guys! Kluson Trick... Pull the string before you tune it,then tune up..Sometimes the string will go back in tune without having to turn the tuner... Preaching to the Choir I'm sure.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ambient Posted June 10, 2008 Members Share Posted June 10, 2008 +1 korg dt-10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ben Co. Posted June 10, 2008 Members Share Posted June 10, 2008 FWIW, I can hear a difference between the +/- 1.0 cent accuracy of the Korg (on my board for several months now), and the +/- 0.1 cent accuracy of a StroboStomp. I always have to fine tune after using the Korg. With the StroboStomp, things rang true after tuning, and it didn't take any longer to tune. However, my 2nd StroboStomp (SS2) developed issues with crackling and such... like you see all over the web... reliability problems with that unit. So I picked up the Korg DT-10 to hold me over until the new Turbo Tuner comes out and man, it's annoying to go back to that level of inaccuracy / fine tuning / etc. The thing is, with the SS/SS2 I could tune silently in a noisy room and be assured that when I took the pedal off of bypass the guitar would be perfectly in tune. Can't do that with the DT-10. But I won't pick up another SS because of the reliability issues, and honestly, I heard a difference for the better when I took it out of the chain... and I was running it in TB. Buffered mode added hiss. I picked up a Sonic Research Turbo Tuner (ST-122) a little while back, and that is a fantastic desktop tuner. Accurate to +/- 0.02 cents. Awesome for setups. The built in mic picks up my acoustics nicely as well. Well guess, what - they're coming out with a stompbox version of the tuner in July. I can't WAIT to pick one up and give this DT-10 to a friend of mine (who's got the Fender tuner right now). And it should only be $40 more than the Korg Pitchblack. -Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 89strat Posted June 10, 2008 Members Share Posted June 10, 2008 Here's what I've used; Boss Tu-2Korg DT-10Korg PitchblackPewaves (usually on ebay). There's is no discernable differences in tuning in any of these to the common ear. You people must be super-human or something. By the way, the pewaves, $40.00 off of ebay - can't beat it. Tunes great, true bypass, small and rugged. The lcd is much like that of the Boss. I use the DT-10. I like the way it works with my setup. Has a nice buffer in it. Using a 15ft lead from the guitar the board, another 5 feet of board cable, then another 15ft to the amp, true bypass doesn't always have its benefits when your signal is passing uninterupted for thirty-five feet of cable except for a couple of mxr's in the path. The dt-10 reinforces the signal a bit. I'm able to hear a difference in my overall tone between all of them and prefer the dt-10. The pitchblack was pretty cool, but I felt no reason to keep it when the DT-10 has been working so well for me. So I returned it and spent my money on something else. My only criticism of the tu-2 is none. Never had an issue with it. Only got the DT-10 to replace it when there was so much hype on this forum about it(much like the pitchblack). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johanwastaken Posted June 10, 2008 Members Share Posted June 10, 2008 I picked up a Sonic Research Turbo Tuner (ST-122) a little while back, and that is a fantastic desktop tuner. Accurate to +/- 0.02 cents. Awesome for setups. The built in mic picks up my acoustics nicely as well. Well guess, what - they're coming out with a stompbox version of the tuner in July. I can't WAIT to pick one up and give this DT-10 to a friend of mine (who's got the Fender tuner right now). And it should only be $40 more than the Korg Pitchblack. Wowww. I might be getting one of those instead. 0.02 cents, that's impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members relictele Posted June 10, 2008 Members Share Posted June 10, 2008 Strobostomp. Mine's being examined/repaired by Peterson so I'm using a TU-2 in the meantime. It's like going from an F1 car to a horse and cart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members archofmusic Posted June 10, 2008 Members Share Posted June 10, 2008 .02 Cent! Holy Pimp Batman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Taylor. Posted June 10, 2008 Members Share Posted June 10, 2008 By the way, the pewaves, $40.00 off of ebay - can't beat it. Tunes great, true bypass, small and rugged. The lcd is much like that of the Boss. I'm looking forward to picking one of these up soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Last Nerve Posted June 10, 2008 Members Share Posted June 10, 2008 Like Ben Co., I'll be picking up the Turbo Tuner as soon as it comes out. Using a more accurate tuner, you don't really pluck a G string (unless my old lady is wearing one!) and notice the difference in tuning. It is when you play a chord, and play another one, then go up the neck and play another one, and everything just "rings" together. Once you witness this first hand, like relictele mentions above, your ears quickly adjust to the difference, and it makes it a bitch to ever go back to a "typical" tuner. Just IMO, YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ben Co. Posted June 10, 2008 Members Share Posted June 10, 2008 .02 Cent! Holy Pimp Batman! And not just +/- 0.02... +/- 0.02 for the life of the product. BTW, for anyone interested, here's a video of the 'standard' model in action so you can get an idea for how it'll work: [YOUTUBE]qi110ixOfk0[/YOUTUBE] -Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mr benn Posted June 10, 2008 Members Share Posted June 10, 2008 i'm gettin one of these! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members archofmusic Posted June 10, 2008 Members Share Posted June 10, 2008 It's funny how the simplest of things are so often overlooked. There is nothing more annoying than using your tuner to tune, and and then having to fix the tuning by ear (which is always the case). Basically, all those 1 cent tuners help you find E, then it's up to you. It's hard to believe the analog human ear is more accurate than a digital tuner, but it really is. I'm curious as to how sensitive a human's ear is compared to .02 cent. There was that "intonation test" post that went around not too long ago. I wonder if we can pull any comparable info from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SUPER VELCROBOY Posted June 10, 2008 Members Share Posted June 10, 2008 It's funny how the simplest of things are so often overlooked. There is nothing more annoying than using your tuner to tune, and and then having to fix the tuning by ear (which is always the case). Basically, all those 1 cent tuners help you find E, then it's up to you. It's hard to believe the analog human ear is more accurate than a digital tuner, but it really is. I'm curious as to how sensitive a human's ear is compared to .02 cent. There was that "intonation test" post that went around not too long ago. I wonder if we can pull any comparable info from that. many people have proven that the human is the most accurate device. That is why some are able to differentiate between 2 of the same pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coma Larkin Posted June 10, 2008 Members Share Posted June 10, 2008 So all you dudes can hear +/- 1 cent differences but you're not annoyed by tempered tuning? It KILLS me when everything is as in tune as it's going to get (using a strobe tuner), and some chords still beat and sound a little...off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mind_Riot89 Posted June 10, 2008 Members Share Posted June 10, 2008 The accuracy of tuners doesn't matter if your guitars intonation is off. Saying that, my TU-2 seems a little unreliable for tuning at times; my ear often has to help out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members avapxia Posted June 10, 2008 Members Share Posted June 10, 2008 I didn't realize people with TU-2s actually had to fix the tuning by ear. *hugs strobostomp* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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