Members Ice Monster Posted June 15, 2008 Members Share Posted June 15, 2008 How could I get these guys sound with my Gear? Any suggestions for settings for my Pedals? Would I really need a Jazzmaster to get the warping noise sounds, surely any tremelo is sufficient? Unless the Jazzmasters bridge has something to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Still.ill Posted June 15, 2008 Members Share Posted June 15, 2008 you have to kidnap this man http://www.exclaim.ca/images/lost_3.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Smachimo the T Posted June 15, 2008 Members Share Posted June 15, 2008 I always get Bullet for my Valentine and My Bloody Valentine confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ice Monster Posted June 15, 2008 Author Members Share Posted June 15, 2008 Understandable. But somewhat unforgiveable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Smachimo the T Posted June 15, 2008 Members Share Posted June 15, 2008 Understandable. But somewhat unforgiveable. no, definitely not, bullet for my valentine= I'm not a prepubescent young girl, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jbrazz Posted June 15, 2008 Members Share Posted June 15, 2008 {censored}ty small amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gambit Posted June 15, 2008 Members Share Posted June 15, 2008 what's the reverse reverb thing about anyway? is it short or long and washy with delay before or after? i'm not sure i get how reverse reverb supposedly = the MBV sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ice Monster Posted June 15, 2008 Author Members Share Posted June 15, 2008 Well I just managed to create the sound. Sovtek Big Muff + Pan Delay Effect on 100% Mix + Tremeloarming whilst strumming. Loop some dissonant little thing with the 50% speed setting on the Line Six. Do the MBV thing over it, powerchords mainly, and now and again switch between "normal" version of the loop and the sped up version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members acdc518 Posted June 15, 2008 Members Share Posted June 15, 2008 the jazzmaster/jag trem is very important to the sound. they would put tape on them so they could use them as they strummed. as far as your effects go. kevin used to use an old guvnor so maybe your drivemaster can get close. for reverse reverb. they used a yamaha spx 90 or a midiverb II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members concretph Posted June 15, 2008 Members Share Posted June 15, 2008 +1 on the floating bridge trem of the Jag, JM ..or SJM62. Kevin's unique sound came partly from strumming with tremolo bar in hand, and used on some chords makes it sound like a dying record player. which was the whole point, it really screws with your ears because it sounds warped in a really cool way. he's was a real pedal junkie when the Edge was still sticking to echo and reverb. so you could collect an ungodly amount of efx and still not hit everything Kevin Shields did in the studio. one of the old reverse reverb pedals was the PDS 3000 Pedalverb. The Akai Headrush was used a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gambit Posted June 15, 2008 Members Share Posted June 15, 2008 what reverse reverb settings are we talking about? really long and wet? (ooh missus!) but on a serious note.. the whammy bar trick.. might be doable to an extent with a behringer vibrato on the latch mode.. a medium depth pitch bend every now and then i suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members acdc518 Posted June 15, 2008 Members Share Posted June 15, 2008 on the spx90 it's patch 17 the reverse gated verb. 200th post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElvisIsNotDjed Posted June 15, 2008 Members Share Posted June 15, 2008 Kevin Shields talks about reverse reverb in this interview - http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=1295292986 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MathiasWilliam Posted June 15, 2008 Members Share Posted June 15, 2008 Yeah, if you have a Whammy Bar strum while still holding on to it, thats what they're doing in video's live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members loomer415 Posted June 15, 2008 Members Share Posted June 15, 2008 Jazzmaster Tremolo Arm/Boss PN-2/SPX 90 Reverse Reverb/British Stacks cranked to 10. That'll get you real close. On a budget I guess you could get the Behringer PN-2 clone when it comes out and the Marshall Reflector for reverse reverb.This is from 1991: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members acdc518 Posted June 15, 2008 Members Share Posted June 15, 2008 that guitar geek diagram is not accurate. he used a guv'nor not a shredmaster. he used a turbo rat on the loveless tour. there is a thread on the "to who knows web" board where his old tech talks about the pedals he used. i posted the list here a while ago so you could probably find it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members !i!i!i!i!i! Posted June 15, 2008 Members Share Posted June 15, 2008 I always get Bullet for my Valentine and My Bloody Valentine confused. unacceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Still.ill Posted June 15, 2008 Members Share Posted June 15, 2008 i always get Jane's addiction and alice in chains confused--- and judas priest/iron maiden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aussy Posted June 16, 2008 Members Share Posted June 16, 2008 I remember someone posted here an interview with him saying that he didn't use nearly as many effects or even overdubs as many people think. Something about using a different chord going into his guitar to create delay too. nice avatar bobafrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Purple Bottle Posted June 16, 2008 Members Share Posted June 16, 2008 cheap reverse reverb can be had through the alesis nanoverb's non-linear setting. $99, and a few other effects to mess around with too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jah_vengeance Posted June 26, 2008 Members Share Posted June 26, 2008 you need this stuff: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members melx Posted June 26, 2008 Members Share Posted June 26, 2008 loads of fuzz and strum with a floating vibrato, that's the key...when I saw them last week everything else (effects wise) was lost. I couldn't hear anything else in the mix at all. (apart from the sampled lead riffs, which was a little wierd) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 3red Posted June 26, 2008 Members Share Posted June 26, 2008 jazzmaster trem is way more important than any effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members concretph Posted June 26, 2008 Members Share Posted June 26, 2008 i see all that gear, and I can't help but think "there's part of the reason we haven't seen a new mbv record in more than a decade.." forgive the sacrilege, that just looks like endless wankery. creativity thrives in spite of limitations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onyxrhino Posted June 26, 2008 Members Share Posted June 26, 2008 i see all that gear, and I can't help but think "there's part of the reason we haven't seen a new mbv record in more than a decade.." forgive the sacrilege, that just looks like endless wankery. creativity thrives in spite of limitations. yeah I love MBV but I agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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