Members miggy01 Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 It's my favourite album; or close, at least.If you think it's boring, it's probably a direct reflection on your intelligence."It needz moar samplz and {censored}ed up {censored}!"The emotive, and communicative power of simple lines playing off each other is astounding. The album has such breathtakingly understated elegance to it, I wouldn't expect your average joe to "get" it.You can almost hear the lyrics on First Breath After a Coma. This is a feat not even some of the most cherished classical pieces can achieve. I love the album too but I think it's pretty stupid to say that. People are allowed to not like your favorite album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fatso Forgottso Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 Case in point'd? So you're saying that I'm not very intelligent because I think EITS are an overplayed, overrated and unoriginal band? And then you say that the absolutely timeless genre of classical music doesn't match up to them? On top of that, you say that "You can almost hear the lyrics", to which I reply "no you can't". There's no singer; how can you hear the lyrics? Unless you mean that they're so "emotive" that you can "hear the lyrics", to which I ask, "are you surprised that people can be emotive with instruments? You think that's something commendable?" Which is essentially like saying, "hey I saw this great artist, he paints with a brush". Also, I agree with english bob: all the songs do sound the same. It is a compositional black hole. People are allowed to have opinions without you insulting them. And aren't you the guy that thinks that BTBAM is more creative than Miles Davis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ben_allison Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 I stand by my initial assessment. All the songs sound the same, and the band rely on a very limited palette of compositional techniques, and the quiet, louder LOUDEST thing gets really old by the time it's finished. I agree. I'm not saying they're "perfect," or even sophisticated. I guess, despite whatever compositional immaturity there might be, there's still something very real and very important that makes its way through the speakers... at least to me. Bob Dylan's voice vs Bob Dylan's message sort of thing. ...hug it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bennintexas Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 It's my favourite album; or close, at least.If you think it's boring, it's probably a direct reflection on your intelligence."It needz moar samplz and {censored}ed up {censored}!"The emotive, and communicative power of simple lines playing off each other is astounding. The album has such breathtakingly understated elegance to it, I wouldn't expect your average joe to "get" it.You can almost hear the lyrics on First Breath After a Coma. This is a feat not even some of the most cherished classical pieces can achieve. now this is just dumb. i love the album. but that doesnt mean everyone has to. we all have different tastes man. just because you dont like it, doesnt mean you dont "get" it. please, take that elitist bull{censored} somewhere else. im starting to like it better when you didnt post so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jo_to_2 Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 If you think it's boring, it's probably a direct reflection on your intelligence. Certainly could be - the reflection is that my intellect is greater than yours because i realise that this album sucks. AND SO IT GOES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SharkMinusBear Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 now this is just dumb. i love the album. but that doesnt mean everyone has to. we all have different tastes man. just because you dont like it, doesnt mean you dont "get" it. please, take that elitist bull{censored} somewhere else. take your hippy bull{censored} and get out of here, benn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ben_allison Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 Which is essentially like saying, "hey I saw this great artist, he paints with a brush". No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fatso Forgottso Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ben_allison Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 now this is just dumb. i love the album. but that doesnt mean everyone has to. we all have different tastes man. just because you dont like it, doesnt mean you dont "get" it. please, take that elitist bull{censored} somewhere else.im starting to like it better when you didnt post so much. I think I just got pulled over by the Hyperbole Police. "Sir, do you know how much you overstated your case by?" "Sorry officer. I know; I was just really taken a back that someone could dislike this pretty kick ass album so much; plus it's Monday." "License and registration." "{censored}, look I'm sorry. I'll hit "Preview Post" next time, take a step back, make sure I'm not going to start a {censored} storm." "...license and registration." "{censored}. My insurance is going to sky rocket..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willburford Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 If you think it's boring, it's probably a direct reflection on your intelligence. thats a bit harsh. I really like that album, but I DO agree that a lot of the songs sound similar. its the only EITS album I have, and the similarity of the songs actually kind of turned me off from getting another album by them. "will it just be a continuation of The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place?" etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BTBAM Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 what is an EITS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fruvai Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 I think I just got pulled over by the Hyperbole Police. "Sir, do you know how much you overstated your case by?""Sorry officer. I know; I was just really taken a back that someone could dislike this pretty kick ass album so much; plus it's Monday." "License and registration.""{censored}, look I'm sorry. I'll hit "Preview Post" next time, take a step back, make sure I'm not going to start a {censored} storm." "...license and registration.""{censored}. My insurance is going to sky rocket..." :cop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SharkMinusBear Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 what is an EITS? The opposite of ETID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cleverbastid Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 I didn't read this whole thread. Listen to other albums, some are different. "how strange, innocence" barely even uses delay, and "the rescue" is much more subdued. Decide what you like and move on. No need to start {censored} for no reason other than to start {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ben_allison Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 what is an EITS? It's like the itis; apparently it's where a musician or group of musicians, out of sheer laziness, play the same progression over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted June 15, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 ...hug it out?OK, but don't be touching my arse I've heard worse you know. It's a good deal more entertaining than the new Black Eyed Peas single, that's for sure. Speaking of which, SUj1eb5nTU0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ben_allison Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 LOL! Very inspirational. Brograbz all around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ben_allison Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 Oh, FWIW, I've been digging on This Will Destroy You lately. It's a good amount of post-rock with some electronic elements (that kinda remind me of Mum, a little bit). It's a bit more "varied." Worth a listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danfromdsf Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 Your Hand in Mine is my favorite song. I'm not sure what all of Ben Allison's points are, because it's Monday for me too (...), but I think that, minus the exaggeration, I'm with him. Maybe it's unoriginal and repetitive, but whatever those four guys did, it's beautiful and moves me in a way that more "talented" bands don't. If it doesn't move you, that's fine. I'll enjoy it, and you'll enjoy something else on the same emotional level, and that's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members miggy01 Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 I'm listening to the album right now with some new headphones (Bose). It sounds amazing I haven't really given their other albums a chance, I like this one too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ben_allison Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 Your Hand in Mine is my favorite song.I'm not sure what all of Ben Allison's points are, because it's Monday for me too (...), but I think that, minus the exaggeration, I'm with him. Maybe it's unoriginal and repetitive, but whatever those four guys did, it's beautiful and moves me in a way that more "talented" bands don't. If it doesn't move you, that's fine. I'll enjoy it, and you'll enjoy something else on the same emotional level, and that's that. Yeah, I was just kinda of being bitchy. You captured it: it moves me. For all that is simple, even primitive, about that album, it moves me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members maxisnotdead Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 it's beautiful and moves me in a way that more "talented" bands don't. This is why I enjoy the record so much. Not the most original tunes, but they do it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BTBAM Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 I think there is an over abundance of the words 'post' and 'rock' next to each other, runtogether, or-hyphenated in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NetStar Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 Mum! Now they are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BTBAM Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 Mum!Now they are great. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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