Anybody using a buffer pedal on their board?

[Telecruiser]

Just wondering if anyone is using a buffer pedal like the Wampler on their pedalboard? Does it help?

[turnitto11]

I'm using an IC buffer that I built, running at 12v. Works great! Brings back some clarity and high end loss from all the cables.

[Telecruiser]

Yeah, I'm thinking about adding the Wampler buffer just for {censored}s and giggles. Most all of my peds are true bybass but I'd like to make sure there is no tone suckage going on.

[JorisBlack]

I've been thinking about that too...

 

You could also look at the MI Audio Boost'n'Buff.

[amarr1]

 

Yeah, I'm thinking about adding the Wampler buffer just for {censored}s and giggles. Most all of my peds are true bybass but I'd like to make sure there is no tone suckage going on.

 

 

It seems a little pricey for such an easy build. If you don't want to make one, I'm sure T1M, a forumite, or even loop-master could make you one on the cheaps.

[DylanWilde]

 

Yeah, I'm thinking about adding the Wampler buffer just for {censored}s and giggles. Most all of my peds are true bybass but I'd like to make sure there is no tone suckage going on.

 

 

What does your pedal chain look like?

[Telecruiser]

What does your pedal chain look like?

 

I am building the board at present. I haven't assigned an order or which will go through the effect loop and which will go direct.

 

The components so far are -

 

Joe Meek Floor Q

Voodoo Labs Chorus

Voodoo Labs Tremolo

Wampler Triple Wreck

Wampler Under Dog

Eventide Timefactor

Boss DD-7

Wampler Buffer

EB volume pedal

EB 25K volume/expression pedal for Timefactor

 

I play a CS Tele through a Dr Z MAZ 38 w/2-10's. These two are a match made in heaven with incredible tone like a ringing bell. No tone suckage will be allowed.

[Crxsh]

I've got a little mini buffer from This1smyne velcro'd under my board. I plug into that at the front of my signal chain.

 

I think it does help a little. Enough to justify spending much on? Not at all. But I paid $20 or something like that and it runs forever on a battery, so it's all good.

[terrafirma]

I put my Boost n Buff (old version) at the end of my chain and switch it on to match the output level between my tele and my "les paul." Keeps those highs intact and brings teh crunch if I want it to. Love it.

[ΨWindingΨ]

Top left corner and it works well for my use.

 

[Telecruiser]

Where do you put your buffer, on the guitar input or as the last item in the chain?

[Taylor.]

 

Where do you put your buffer, on the guitar input or as the last item in the chain?

 

I was just gonna ask where y'all put yours . . .

[Saturnine10]

I have a pair of buffers i made from Beavis's website, they work really well and weren't that hard to put together..

 

As for placement, you really just have to play with it in your chain. I just pulled one out last night and put it right in front of everything, it works really well. I'd recommend using a TB loop to hear what the buffer is actually doing, that way you can click the loop on or off and see if you have the same tone with all your effects turned off in the loop or have them all bypassed.

 

In the past, i've placed these buffers in the front of the chain and after or just one in the middle. Like i said, it all depends on what effects your using and how many of them etc.

 

 

 

[cBc]

 

Just wondering if anyone is using a buffer pedal like the Wampler on their pedalboard? Does it help?

 

 

I do & it does. Keeps tone purer thru all our peds/cables.

[sleepersurprise]

haha I really like that bender buffer! how much was it? and where can I find it?

[Saturnine10]

I made it from schems from the Beavis Audio site

[macadood]

can someone pls explain how said buffers work?

how the hell can it 'improve' your tone and make it sound unaffected by the lengths of cable and what not??

does it just add some high end to your sound?

 

 

tl:dr

Buffers, how do they work?

[Guest Guest]

I use the buffer in a Fromel EQ - brings some high end back in, sounds great.

[Saturnine10]

It doesnt add high end, but rather keeps the high end intact when there are long lengths of cable/effects etc.

[macadood]

ok, but pls explain why said buffer is 1) not built into the amp

and 2) how the hell does it keep the high end in tact when its placed at the end of the fx chain??? if the high end is already 'lost' where does it get it back from? sounds like magic...or magnets

and 3) how does it work??? teh electronics behind it. how does it eliminate high end loss of having lengthy cables?

[roquero]

I put my MI Audio boost n buff at the beginning of the chain [tried it at the end but it sounds better at the beginning] running at 24 volts- makes a big difference in sound- much clearer that way!

[AJ Nash]

I have 3 buffers on my board. One at the start of my chain (Crowther Hotcake) and a couple at the end (Malekko Chicklet -> Akai Headrush). It definitely makes a difference in clarity.

[Saturnine10]

Its a high impedance/Low impedance thing. Lower impedance signals travel better through circuits etc.

 

ok, but pls explain why said buffer is 1) not built into the amp and 2) how the hell does it keep the high end in tact when its placed at the end of the fx chain??? if the high end is already 'lost' where does it get it back from? sounds like magic...or magnets and 3) how does it work??? teh electronics behind it. how does it eliminate high end loss of having lengthy cables?

[macadood]

 

I have 3 buffers on my board. One at the start of my chain (Crowther Hotcake) and a couple at the end (Malekko Chicklet -> Akai Headrush). It definitely makes a difference in clarity.

 

-from TGP archives

 

also

put simply, a buffer makes your pickup signal powered, or "active", at which point it will not really be affected by long cable runs, volume pedals, or other stuff in the chain. Your signal us only as good as your LAST buffer. Buffers work downhill and essentially stop at the next buffer. I've seen posts where guys put the buffer last in the chain and thought that the entire signal chain behind it was buffered. Guess again. in that situation the only thing thats buffered is the cable to the amp.

 

 

and aparently fuzzes dont liek buffers...you guys with buffers find that??

[Saturnine10]

Yup.

 

It only really effects the fuzz when rolling back the volume on the guitar