Members Legal Fingers Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 After years of running a basic tuner/Big Muff/volume rig, I've finally put together a board for doing some ambient music. For the first time, I'm going to have more than a couple effects, and I want to do it right. The board is handmade and built off the same specs as the PedalTrain 2. I'm going to be almost filling it, and I'm just wondering if anyone is partial to certain patch cables. I'm probably going to need some varying sizes, but nothing over six inches. Any suggestions and or links to check stuff out? Price isn't a huge issue, but being both good and affordable is ideal (obviously). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members claytonjohn18 Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 People will probably recommend George L's and/or Lava cables. The mantra seems to be "if you can solder, get the ones with solder and do it right." I guess people have a hard time with the solderless ones every so often. I use cheapo cables and it sounds fine. If your amp has a treble knob/there's a decent buffer somewhere in your signal chain, cables aren't that big of a deal. Some people will argue that it's all about cables though, and that people who use cheap cables don't know what they're missing. Whatever, if all I'm doing is making sound effects, I can work around the treble roll-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Holy Schnikes Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 Buy the Lava Mini ELC pedal kit and be done with it. Super easy to assemble and they work wonderfully. I use 16 pedals in line and my tone sounds full and perfect since switching from George L's to the Lava. George L's were bright and brittle sounding in my setup, not to mention they like to fail occasionally. Also, I'd just search the forum as there seems to be a "Patch Cable" thread started on a daily basis, lots of info and opinions out there already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gremson Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 I got the Planet Waves cable kit a while back, but the cables were too stiff and I had a hard time positioning pedals the way I wanted with them. Never had any sound issues with them.I mostly use the generic pancake style cables and they've been doing fine for about 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Harvester1199 Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 bullet cable slug kit is awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members One Man Banned Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 After years of running a basic tuner/Big Muff/volume rig, I've finally put together a board for doing some ambient music. For the first time, I'm going to have more than a couple effects, and I want to do it right. The board is handmade and built off the same specs as the PedalTrain 2. I'm going to be almost filling it, and I'm just wondering if anyone is partial to certain patch cables. I'm probably going to need some varying sizes, but nothing over six inches. Any suggestions and or links to check stuff out? Price isn't a huge issue, but being both good and affordable is ideal (obviously). I'm partial to making my own with small barrel and right angle Switchcraft jacks and George L cable, but I might be switching from George L to Evidence Audio Monorail for my wire. Making them yourself is affordable, the quality can be top notch if you use good stuff and you can make it exactly the length you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members w1ll1a9m Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 80 usd for a kit of solderless cables is too much for me..... whats so great about them??? besides that they are smaller.... and save some space on your board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members juri Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 Buy the Lava Mini ELC pedal kit and be done with it. Super easy to assemble and they work wonderfully. I use 16 pedals in line and my tone sounds full and perfect since switching from George L's to the Lava. George L's were bright and brittle sounding in my setup, not to mention they like to fail occasionally. Also, I'd just search the forum as there seems to be a "Patch Cable" thread started on a daily basis, lots of info and opinions out there already. I like the Lavas although some of them were a pain to assemble (sometimes the needle bends and sticks trough the center and touch the outside). So if you choose to make your own have a multi meter handy to check the cable for shorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Akridosity Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 I got the Planet Waves cable kit a while back, but the cables were too stiff and I had a hard time positioning pedals the way I wanted with them. Never had any sound issues with them. I also usr the PW kit, it seems a lot sturdier than every other solderless kit i've tried. Very nice, but not good if you want your pedals really close to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members juri Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 80 usd for a kit of solderless cables is too much for me..... whats so great about them??? besides that they are smaller.... and save some space on your board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members misterstomach Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 i have the lava cables. i like them. i had a few problems when i first put them together, but it was easy to fix and i got the hang of it. i really like how compact you can keep things and they sound good. it's a little pricey, but i think it was worth it. even cheap cables add up pretty fast. and making custom length is a big plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tattoedsailor Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 A lot of my patch cables are getting old and kinda falling apart.. Any recommendation where I can get some pancake style jacks and some good quality cable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tattoedsailor Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 **Bump** I know someone out there is making their own cables... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members duderanimous Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 I used to use the Planet Waves, but as others have said, too stiff which makes them a pain in the butt. I recently switched out to a combo of the following cheap-o patch cables, and my sound actually IMPROVED... call me crazy, but MY ears like what I hear These - http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HOSA-CFS-606-1-4-6-Guitar-Patch-Cables-6-Pack-/370498047020?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item5643678c2c and I get the right angle on these colorful 17" patch cables - http://backstage.musiciansfriend.com/Accessories/Cables-Snakes/Audio--RCA-Cables/1-4--1-4-Patch-Cable-8-Pack-17.site1prod330247.product Cheap enough to buy numerous, and so what if one fails... chuck it, and pop in a new one. I actually have some of the colored ones from the 1980's that are still going strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members El Glom-o Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 can someone explain me why is better to buy those solderless cable kits than building your own cables for a person who knows how to solder things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SomeDarryl Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 Used666 is a forum member on here that makes patch cables. Makes any length you need and quick too! Here: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?2321196-Need-quality-patch-cables-on-the-cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cryptosonic Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 I make my own patches using Lava mini cable, paid around 17 bucks for ten feet on the bay. Check out these plugs, I like them better than the Switchcraft because they have the solder tab for ground as well as conductor. They're in Garden Grove dude, you could practically walk there.A lot of my patch cables are getting old and kinda falling apart.. Any recommendation where I can get some pancake style jacks and some good quality cable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hecticone Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 Love the canare stuff good cables do matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chakosh Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 If you want to do it on the cheap I've got 7' of cable + 12 connectors or so that I could get you for $20 shipped/pp'ed. I'm running Lava's solderless, and they're really easy. I don't know why people might have problems with them. Seem pretty straight forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tattoedsailor Posted April 15, 2011 Members Share Posted April 15, 2011 If you want to do it on the cheap I've got 7' of cable + 12 connectors or so that I could get you for $20 shipped/pp'ed.I'm running Lava's solderless, and they're really easy. I don't know why people might have problems with them. Seem pretty straight forward. Are they pancake angle jacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chakosh Posted April 18, 2011 Members Share Posted April 18, 2011 Are they pancake angle jacks? Yeah. Sorry didn't see this 'til today. They're the pancake angle jacks from Parts Express. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cirrus Posted April 18, 2011 Members Share Posted April 18, 2011 I like the G&H right angle jacks - they're more sturdy and easier to work with than the pancake type, and they're smaller than switchcraft and Neutrik right angled jacks. As for cable, it doesn't make much difference really because when you're custom making cables the overall length is shorted than when you're using generic patch cables. I've been using Klotz thin patch cable and it seems to do the job just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vinnies Posted April 18, 2011 Members Share Posted April 18, 2011 i use george l's in my rack and on my board. no probs with them, you just gotta do 'em right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tattoedsailor Posted April 18, 2011 Members Share Posted April 18, 2011 Yeah. Sorry didn't see this 'til today. They're the pancake angle jacks from Parts Express. Send me PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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