Members notjonahbutnoah Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 Backstory: Our rhythm guitarist's tone needs work. It's because he doesn't have his own cab and probably isn't gonna buy one. He often uses one of those {censored}ty non-English Marshall 412s and it's bad. Good cleans but bad dirt. I don't wanna buy him one so I was thinking a pedal would help provide a more consistent, better tone. I wouldn't mind buying this because I love having extra pedals to mess with and I can always sell it without taking too big a hit. I'd like to not go over 200. Cheap is good. Oh and if it matters, he's pretty much always rhythm and I'm lead, he doesn't have any solos and only has a couple chord based intros. His Rig; Jet City 100 head. A good head, but the dirt channel hates those {censored}ty cabs, that and even if he has a good cab, it would sound a little too close to my setup. His guitar is my Xaviere 335 clone w/ the stock fat pat humbuckers. My Rig I use a Dirty Bomb clone through the clean channel of a Mesa Stiletto into a Marshall 1936 212. Guitar is a Charvel So Cal w/ the Tone Zone humbucker in the bridge. Sounds kinda Mark III ish, like a really fat ballsy Marshall crunch, but incredibly tight. So the pedal should compliment this well. Our Musical Style: Modern punk rock. Some complex riffage, but also some 3 chord jams. The bridges in our songs are either straight solos, a reggae breakdown, or a more metallic type breakdown/bridge with a couple chugga chugga bits. Other info: I've got an IC muff on the way, but that might be a little too much, I was thinkin maybe a different kind of muff because his tone should be pretty thick to fill the gaps when I'm doing lead stuff, and scoopy mids are ok. Not sure about all the different muffs though. Kinda thinkin they may be too flubby. So, what say you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members B.S.Jansen Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 Boss HM-2, all knobs on 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan. Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 Chrysalis might fit the bill really well here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted February 20, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 Chrysalis might fit the bill really well here. Oooooo, interesting recommendation. I've really wanted to try one of those. Spanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members B.S.Jansen Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 ...as if that weren't the first thing I tried. You followed the instructions right? [video=youtube;b-1vcuKcXeI] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 100 dollar cars Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 chrysalis is good, the monarch might work too. if you want to go cheap and pretty versatile, the hardwire SC-2 is excellent for rhythm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members conky Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 OCD works great on my Soldano so that might work for the Jet City as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted February 20, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 OCD works great on my Soldano so that might work for the Jet City as well. I'm thinkin it should be just the clean channel and a pedal rather than tryna goose the JCA. You think the OCD would be fat/gainy enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members turnstylepoet Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 Red Llama RI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jakkeh Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 Crunchbox or DLS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members huggernaut Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 Dr scientist elements. Use the 15% from prymaxe and it's under 200 today. The elements will do just about anything from light od to tight heavy riffage and with tons of eq options. Seems like it would fit the bill to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members conky Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 Yeah and the tone was wonderful, but I'm thinkin I want more of the Icelandic speed metal kind of tone, rather than Sweedish death.Oh yeah, the Monarch... forgot about that one. The bassier thing might be perfect. Another good call.I'm thinkin it should be just the clean channel and a pedal rather than tryna goose the JCA. You think the OCD would be fat/gainy enough? It will work well for both. I wouldn't put a bandaid on the problem though. I'd tell his ass to get a {censored}ing cab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pewtershmit Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 the jet cities have great gain. sounds like he's doing it wrong take care of the weakest link try it with a better cab, or try it with a new rhythm guitarist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted February 20, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 Elements could be cool. I know a cab would solve the problem, but that's a bare minimum of 300 if he's lucky. It's not his playing, and I feel for his brokeness. He works hard but his shop is slow right now. He's been my best buddy since middle school and writes/sings quite well. He's a definite asset, but his gear just sucks. Maybe I'll wait awhile, buy myself a new cab, and let him use mine. I dunno. Le sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 100 dollar cars Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 hell, you could get some 3/4 inch birch plywood and make a cab. it may not be practical, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted February 20, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 hell, you could get some 3/4 inch birch plywood and make a cab. it may not be practical, though. I reckon it's the speakers as opposed to the construction, and I don't wanna spring for nice speakers. Oh, and I am no craftsman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pewtershmit Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 I dont get how you can consider a 225 dollar pedal and buying a cab is out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted February 20, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 I dont get how you can consider a 225 dollar pedal and buying a cab is out of the question. Well I would only consider The Elements if I got that discount. I wond spend more than 200. That and if I'm buyin it, I wanna enjoy it too, I can have fun with a new pedal. Cabs are kinda boring. Oh, and a pedal would be easier to sell/trade when/if we don't need it anymore. Also, it will be tough to find something with at least two high quality speakers for less than 300. Point me towards a 212 w/ celestions for less than 300 and I'll be quite interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TomCTC Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 Can't go wrong with a: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lowbrow Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 I think you oughta hold off...that IC Muff might surprise the hell out of you in this situation:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TravvyBear Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 I haven't used one, but look into a Pork Loin or Green Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted February 20, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 So the muff came today. Will do an NPD later. It's pretty sweet, might be too much for this application, but the tone knob has a great sweep, and it actually works alright with the volume knob on the guitar. It just doesn't palm mute, like at all. So we'll see, I asseembled a little pedal kit for him. The muff and my old pitchblack, one spot/chain, and a patch cable. Don't you wish you had a bandmate like me? Got practice in about an hour. Will report back later. I haven't used one, but look into a Pork Loin or Green Rhino Yeah, these pedals have a solid reputation. Might hafta do some clip listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pelliott Posted February 20, 2012 Members Share Posted February 20, 2012 It really sounds like at this point he should save up for a decent cab if the rest of his gear isn't bad. Maybe buy/borrow pedals for the time being -- try boosting the IC Muff with different ODs. Tends to tighten things up and give Muffs more of a distortion-type sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members turnstylepoet Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 I haven't used one, but look into a Pork Loin or Green Rhino I love the Pork Loin but it might not have enough gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pelliott Posted February 21, 2012 Members Share Posted February 21, 2012 Catalinbread SCOD has no shortage of gain, for what it's worth. And sounds really good. And thick. I likes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.