Members The Villano Dude Posted March 5, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 nah, not yet. i hear great things about the monorail solid core cables. Just did some reading on them. They sound awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Villano Dude Posted March 5, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 Although I am trying to avoid replacing pedals and all, I have changed them enough to want to be careful with the patch cables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members macadood Posted March 5, 2012 Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 What christianatl said +1 The straight lava ends are a joke. You can easily pull them right off. It can look super clean having everything measured out perfectly but it is a weak link in the chain and you know what they say about weak links. They sink ships. you mean loose lips sink ships i'd just go with the manual route and buy some nice quality cable as well as some quality pancake 1/4'' plugs and solder them to your specifications Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Villano Dude Posted March 5, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 you mean loose lips sink ships i'd just go with the manual route and buy some nice quality cable as well as some quality pancake 1/4'' plugs and solder them to your specifications This is the route I am leaning towards. Part of why I think it's best is because I need a couple of custom lengths. I was going to have my cables done at a local store but I realized it would cost more to do that than to do it myself not to mention if I might be able to get a more durable alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crohny Posted March 5, 2012 Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 My issue is the components break down trying to be sure I don't have a cold solder joint No idea what you mean by this. Over heating the joint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Villano Dude Posted March 5, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 Looking at Switchcraft Pancake plugs, are other plugs better? What about cable itself -- Mogami or Monorail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goaway Posted March 5, 2012 Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 i dont feel like you could go wrong with either. i feel like there's a certain threshold of cable quality at which one stops noticeably hearing a difference. i'd say it starts around the mogami level of quality. by that i mean, i noticed a huge difference upgrading from cheap hosa's to george l's. i dont think i would hear as huge of a difference going from george l to monorail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JR13 Posted March 5, 2012 Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 I use these http://www.redco.com/shopexd.asp?id=1659 (although you can find 25 packs for cheaper elsewhere). and this cable: http://www.redco.com/shopexd.asp?id=507 works/sounds as well as anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ert Posted March 5, 2012 Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 I use george l's and had a cap unscrew on me one time, i think it was because i wasnt using the plactic cap covers. after that I used the covers all the time and i have not had a problem since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Villano Dude Posted March 5, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 I use these http://www.redco.com/shopexd.asp?id=1659 (although you can find 25 packs for cheaper elsewhere). and this cable: http://www.redco.com/shopexd.asp?id=507 works/sounds as well as anything Great link. I think it's the best price I have come across so far. Thanks a lot dudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hangwire Posted March 5, 2012 Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 No idea what you mean by this. Over heating the joint? Yup For example, wiring a 3pdt where I am pressing the soldering tip to the lug and the wire and then move the solder in, and I get a lump of solder sitting on both parts but they are not joined- then I try again pressing the tip longer against both lug and wire, and solder added and it melts, but the wire and lug are still loose enough to move and the solder is lumped on one or the other part--- then move the soldering tip in again and wait longer and the solder breaks up- and the new added solder creates a candy nugget looking lump and they are finally secure- but after it us all done the switch is all not functioning and I get a weird feedback loop whistling noise instead of the desired effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crohny Posted March 5, 2012 Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 Yup For example, wiring a 3pdt where I am pressing the soldering tip to the lug and the wire and then move the solder in, and I get a lump of solder sitting on both parts but they are not joined- then I try again pressing the tip longer against both lug and wire, and solder added and it melts, but the wire and lug are still loose enough to move and the solder is lumped on one or the other part--- then move the soldering tip in again and wait longer and the solder breaks up- and the new added solder creates a candy nugget looking lump and they are finally secure- but after it us all done the switch is all not functioning and I get a weird feedback loop whistling noise instead of the desired effect. Ah ok. Well for shiot I fele I might fuck up on I pre solder a connect point. Say like on a pot, I will apply solder to the connection, let that cool. Get the pick up wire or cap or whatever the fuck I am going to solder, re heat the conenction put wire through and hold completely still. I have no idea if this a good thing to do, but I more so than not, have a perfect solder job and no cold joint. This way you're not holding solder the wire and the soldering all at once. Two steps and I am done. But I don't know if this is good form or not. I assume there isn't anything wrong with it since I haven't had any issues yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members macadood Posted March 5, 2012 Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 go for mogami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Villano Dude Posted March 5, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 Ah the joy of soldering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Villano Dude Posted March 5, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 go for mogami Sounds good. Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aaron SS Posted March 5, 2012 Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 Soldered for sure. Check out GLS Pancake Plugs (what I use) or G&H right angles if you're not into pancakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Villano Dude Posted March 5, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 Soldered for sure.Check out GLS Pancake Plugs (what I use) or G&H right angles if you're not into pancakes. Oh man, those are a lot cheaper than the Switchcrafts. I don't see why not to go the cheaper route though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JR13 Posted March 5, 2012 Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 Yup For example, wiring a 3pdt where I am pressing the soldering tip to the lug and the wire and then move the solder in, and I get a lump of solder sitting on both parts but they are not joined- then I try again pressing the tip longer against both lug and wire, and solder added and it melts, but the wire and lug are still loose enough to move and the solder is lumped on one or the other part--- then move the soldering tip in again and wait longer and the solder breaks up- and the new added solder creates a candy nugget looking lump and they are finally secure- but after it us all done the switch is all not functioning and I get a weird feedback loop whistling noise instead of the desired effect. if you're heating both at the same time and then adding solder... it should flow over both parts and make a connection. what wattage iron are you using? the added solder not blending with the old solder suggests that your iron isn't hot enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JR13 Posted March 5, 2012 Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 Oh man, those are a lot cheaper than the Switchcrafts. I don't see why not to go the cheaper route though. yeah.. i think I actually use the GLS plugs too. http://www.amazon.com/GLS-Audio-Profile-Pancake-Speaker/dp/tech-data/B003UIC78W $1 each isn't bad at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Villano Dude Posted March 5, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 Sorry for the litany of dumb questions but, what should I buy in terms of a soldering iron? What do peeps recommend? I need a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JR13 Posted March 5, 2012 Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 Sorry for the litany of dumb questions but, what should I buy in terms of a soldering iron? What do peeps recommend? I need a new one. I use 30+40w radioshack irons. But if I was gonna buy a new iron it'd be this: http://www.amazon.com/Stahl-Tools-Variable-Temperature-Soldering/dp/B0029N70WM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goaway Posted March 5, 2012 Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 I went to lowe's and got a Weller. Seems to hold up a whole lot better than the RadioShack model. Will work just fine for cables and other basic jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted March 5, 2012 Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 I want to comment on the putrid stench of user error in this thread, but if I do, my problem free George L's will surely burst into flames. So. OP, good luck on your soldering adventures! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members christianatl Posted March 5, 2012 Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 Soldered for sure.Check out GLS Pancake Plugs (what I use) or G&H right angles if you're not into pancakes. I use George L's .225 cable and the GLS pancakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crohny Posted March 5, 2012 Members Share Posted March 5, 2012 I went to lowe's and got a Weller. Seems to hold up a whole lot better than the RadioShack model. Will work just fine for cables and other basic jobs. Krallum swears by Weller. My radio shack soldering iron was good for two guitars worth of pick ups installations. Then the tip started to get loose and {censored}. {censored} radio shack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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