Members BerkleeBill Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by bstaley I can't read a line of that but I'll venture a guess that the last line says something like "suck my dick". No, that would read "Meine schwanza luchen" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shreder75 Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by STEEL KAGE It translated roughly to this;Chew my bag, your mother sucks goats and you sister rides bicycles without seats and is whore for the armyeat my dick and have a nice day!!!Of course it is a grammatical nightmare courtesy of Babelfish!!!Kage 'chew my bag" LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Attila Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by fahn-ghoul I wonder if he's burning in Hell? If before his death, he came to Jesus for forgiveness, then the answer is no --- if he continued to turn his back on the Lord, then the answer is yes.-Attila Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SteveVHT Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by Attila If before his death, he came to Jesus for forgiveness, then the answer is no --- if he continued to turn his back on the Lord, then the answer is yes. -Attila LOLSorry, just couldn't help that...Now you can come over and help me clean the coffee out of my nostrils... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MesaBoogieNight Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 The man got what he deserved. As a matter of fact, after reading the official account of the murders, I wish I could've done it to him myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xgxmanx Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by Primex You americans sucks definitly. But probably that's not a news for ya. The whole world is laughing about the stupid american folk. I would say we practice these methods of killing people some hundred years ago. And thats time were you mentaly live. Good luck. ICH SCHIZE MEIN HOSEN !!! YOUR SO VERY GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY !!! xgx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bostekrisco Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by STEEL KAGE It translated roughly to this;Chew my bag, your mother sucks goats and you sister rides bicycles without seats and is whore for the armyeat my dick and have a nice day!!!Of course it is a grammatical nightmare courtesy of Babelfish!!!Kage Well then, what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willy22 Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by Primex You americans sucks definitly. But probably that's not a news for ya. The whole world is laughing about the stupid american folk. I would say we practice these methods of killing people some hundred years ago. And thats time were you mentaly live. Good luck. Yeah. Germany has a great reputation.You were killing massive amounts of (innocent) people not too long ago. Remember that asshole?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KirkHammett1 Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 I dont f'n get it. Did anyone here not think someone in the past should have fried due to them being white? The people who cry racist are the racist ones in my opinion. Has nothing to do with race what so ever. Someone can murder 4 people and then have a {censored} load of people raise a stink in trying to defend the guy. What a world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kenny Powers Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by FallofEmpyrean I actually had a similar discussion with a co-worker yesterday. I asked him, "As a hardcore Christian and a Republican who believes in the death penalty, don't you find it ironic that you completely believe in passing judgement and penalty on someone who supposedly only God can judge a man/woman?" He kind of side-stepped answering it, though, saying that we can judge them on Earth, just not their soul. i wouldnt call that side stepping at all. you asked a question based on his belief structure and he gave you a perfectly good answer based on said structure. what dont you get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jack Luminous Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by nvcreations i wouldnt call that side stepping at all. you asked a question based on his belief structure and he gave you a perfectly good answer based on said structure. what dont you get? So what exactly means "thou shalt not kill" ? I didn't see any exception conditions written in small letters at the bottom of the tablets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kenny Powers Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by Jack Luminous So what exactly means "thou shalt not kill" ? I didn't see any exception conditions written in small letters at the bottom of the tablets. if I was more versed in the scriptures I could give a better answer, im not claiming I know that answer, but was answering the previous question. there are also lines about obeying the laws of the land. every action having a just punishment etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kenny Powers Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by Jack Luminous So what exactly means "thou shalt not kill" ? I didn't see any exception conditions written in small letters at the bottom of the tablets. if I was more versed in the scriptures I could give a better answer, im not claiming I know that answer, but was answering the previous question. there are also lines about obeying the laws of the land. every action having a just punishment etc. but then for people who are sooooo against any killing, how do you feel about self defense? what about people in wars? police officers? something I have always wondered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Attila Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by SteveVHT LOL Sorry, just couldn't help that... Now you can come over and help me clean the coffee out of my nostrils... I'll assume you laughed, because you do not share the same Christian beliefs that I do --- but I was being completely serious in my response to the guy.-Attila Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loghead Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by RockNote Mind you, Hitler was a painter. Actually, a surprisingly good one. I don't find that still life very impressive. I don't think Hitler was much of an artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jack Luminous Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by nvcreations if I was more versed in the scriptures I could give a better answer, im not claiming I know that answer, but was answering the previous question. there are also lines about obeying the laws of the land. every action having a just punishment etc.but then for people who are sooooo against any killing, how do you feel about self defense? what about people in wars? police officers? something I have always wondered. You said in your previous post the guy gave "a perfectly good answer according to said [christian] structure". Looks to me like it's a perfectly wrong answer according to the christian belief system. You talk about other lines etc. but are those more important than the the 10 commandments in the christian belief system ? I don't think so. I'm not christian myself so I don't care about their skewed view of the world. I'm not against killing when it's necessary. Death penalty is unnecessary and barbaric. Killing people for no reason is a thing of a distant past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvanS Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by Jack Luminous So what exactly means "thou shalt not kill" ? I didn't see any exception conditions written in small letters at the bottom of the tablets. Not to split hairs, but isn't the original Hebrew "Thou shalt not murder"? I've heard that a few times. However, I only read Arabic, not Hebrew. That raises the whole murder vs. killing debate. I'm not sure the state has the right to kill anybody. That bothers me. Why can't the victim's families do it? Maybe that's a bad idea too. I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvanS Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by Loghead I don't find that still life very impressive. I don't think Hitler was much of an artist. I like it except for that weird butterfly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kenny Powers Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by Jack Luminous You said in your previous post the guy gave "a perfectly good answer according to said [christian] structure". Looks to me like it's a perfectly wrong answer according to the christian belief system. You talk about other lines etc. but are those more important than the the 10 commandments in the christian belief system ? I don't think so. I'm not christian myself so I don't care about their skewed view of the world. I'm not against killing when it's necessary. Death penalty is unnecessary and barbaric. Killing people for no reason is a thing of a distant past. no he didnt give a wrong answer. he didnt ask the same question you asked, you actually had the mindset of digging deeper where he just offered a surface question. btw in Exodus is clearly states "eye for an eye"so theres you answer in short Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jack Luminous Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by EvanS Not to split hairs, but isn't the original Hebrew "Thou shalt not murder"?I've heard that a few times. However, I only read Arabic, not Hebrew. That raises the whole murder vs. killing debate. You are the second one to raise that point but I don't see the relevance. Isn't death penalty murder ? Originally posted by EvanS I'm not sure the state has the right to kill anybody. That bothers me. Why can't the victim's families do it? Maybe that's a bad idea too. I don't know. Sure in the US, states have the right to kill (or murder if you prefer that wording) people. No debate here. But is that consistent with the christian belief system ? As a side note, yes it would be a bad idea to let the victim's family perform the punishment themselves because it would make justice appear as vengeance, which it is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loghead Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by EvanS I like it except for that weird butterfly. Butterfly? Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Major Third Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by Jack Luminous I still don't understand how all this fundie christians who voted for Bush and are in favor of the death penalty can rationalize their political choice with the "thou shall not kill" commandment. They don't, they get it from here: Genesis 9:5 and 65 "And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. 6 "Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jack Luminous Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by nvcreations no he didnt give a wrong answer. he didnt ask the same question you asked, you actually had the mindset of digging deeper where he just offered a surface question. btw in Exodus is clearly states "eye for an eye"so theres you answer in short Would you be more versed in scripture you would know that "Eye for an eye" is anterior in the old testament to the 10 commandments and Moses clearly states those are replacing all prior religious laws. So "Eye for an eye" doesn't hold anymore. Yeah, Id' think if I was christian, I would have the mindset to dig deeper about my own beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SteveVHT Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Guys...... Come on... Who the {censored} cares about a religious outlook on this.... Religion is nothing more than a man made opinion based on his own insecurities...there are no facts to it at all.... Bottom line is that one big piece of {censored} got what he deserved....It should have been sooner. For all those who try to make a logical choice based on religion and their own beleifs.... it's pointless. I would bet you all a million dollars that if it was your family member that got killed by this piece of {censored}.....your view would be completely different.... I don't care what fairy tale you beleive in. When it hits home, and logic and intelligence takes over, there is no BS religion. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kenny Powers Posted December 13, 2005 Members Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by Jack Luminous As a side note, yes it would be a bad idea to let the victim's family perform the punishment themselves because it would make justice appear as vengeance, which it is not. actually I should have mentioned more about that in that Exodus mentioning... it says that the "eye for an eye" structure was presented in efforts to prevent retaliation/vengence, and also to eliminate the barbaric punishments of way back when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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