Members rememberduane Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/27/us/27history.html?_r=1&em&ex=1204261200&en=1f87c3c0567ec3b4&ei=5087%0A&oref=slogin Read the whole thing. It's much, much worse than you think. New York Times Survey Finds Teenagers Ignorant on Basic History and Literature Questions By SAM DILLON Fewer than half of American teenagers who were asked basic history and literature questions in a phone survey knew when the Civil War was fought, and one in four said Columbus sailed to the New World some time after 1750, not in 1492. The survey results, released on Tuesday, demonstrate that a significant proportion of teenagers live in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Andersonology Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 It's bacause they spend all of their time surfin' the 'net, posting crap on forums, downloading porn, etc. I guess the Unabomber was on to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrendanO Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 Labor doesn't need no fancy book learnin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cibyl Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 Ok,...I'll get the ball rolling -- It's all Dubya's fault!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bopper Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 Can sumwon pleez reed the artical to me so I can has an opinyon on it? K, thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DoubleBarrel Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 Ok,...I'll get the ball rolling -- It's all Dubya's fault!!!!!!!! I'll go even further....... Since they got the MLK question right, evidently we have been spending too much time on "Black History" and not enough on "World & US History" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 Ok,...I'll get the ball rolling -- It's all Dubya's fault!!!!!!!! thats the same excuse most of these idiot teenagers would use too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Detonator Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 The education system in this country is a joke. Instead of creating opportunities for students by playing to their interests and strengths, schools are focusing on creating a veritable middle class day worker. Instead of trades, people are being groomed to have only the educational foundation necessary to move from dead end job to dead end job throughout the course of their lives. This problem is also starting to creep into colleges as well. It's really sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members damnuandurdog Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 Too long; didn't read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JKD Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 Can sumwon pleez reed the artical to me so I can has an opinyon on it? K, thx. It's book learnin' son and no good can come of it!!! Back to work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sex Panther Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 Who gives a {censored}? Who cares if you know when Columbus discovered someone elses Country? Will that help you get a job? Is it important? Nope. FAIL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members noseminer Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 I'll go even further.......Since they got the MLK question right, evidently we have been spending too much time on "Black History" and not enough on "World & US History" its black W bush's fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 Ive said many times that I think History should be taken a lot more seriously in school. And not American History, but World History. How do you know where you're going if you dont know where you've been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrendanO Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 How do you know where you're going if you dont know where you've been? OnStar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bopper Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 It's book learnin' son and no good can come of it!!! Back to work! *Wipes snot off nose* Okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sex Panther Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 OnStar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 Think that's bad? Apparently, a few kids got caught trapping deer locally. Don't ask me how? After they caught them....they'd beat the {censored} out of it......and leave it for dead. Now that's {censored}ed up. http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008802280508 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members noseminer Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 at teh end of the day knowing math is assloads more useful than history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rememberduane Posted February 29, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 I'll go even further.......Since they got the MLK question right, evidently we have been spending too much time on "Black History" and not enough on "World & US History" I was wondering who was going to make this idiotic comment; I should have figured it would be you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Detonator Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 FAIL! What if math and reading aren't a student's strong suit, but history or social science or art is? That student will never realize his potential. He will either struggle to be able to meet the minimum requirements to graduate, or fail and never learn what he might be capable of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sex Panther Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 FAIL! What if math and reading aren't a student's strong suit, but history or social science or art is? That student will never realize his potential. He will either struggle to be able to meet the minimum requirements to graduate, or fail and never learn what he might be capable of. A History Teacher? And why are you adding stuff? :poke: Sorry I forgot all the :poke: in the original post. :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CenturyStanding Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 If you want my personal opinion, that is an interpretation of youth from the perspective of an older (and biased) generation. Current grandparents said the same thing about their children in the 70's. The truth is, we are emphasizing different (and I would argue better, but that's subjective) points in our education system. The study above covers raw facts and knowledge. Knowledge varies from generation to generation. For example, the current generation may not be keen on their civil war facts, but they could tell you a whole lot more about computer technology in all of its useful applications. How could you judge which knowledge is more significant? Furthermore, our current education puts a much greater emphasis on understanding concepts versus memorizing raw data. Is it really better to teach when the civil war took place or why it took place and how it has impacted our nation? In the end, if intelligence is derived from knowledge, and knowledge is situational, then the teenagers of today are no more or less intelligent or knowledgable than past generations. They are merely a different culture with different values and ideals. Past knowledge is no more or less important than current knowledge. If the New York Times or anyone else cannot see that from their perspective then they are, ironically, "stunningly ignorant." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Andersonology Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 "I hate words." "Words suck." "If I wanted to read, I'd go to school." Beavis & Butthead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rememberduane Posted February 29, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 If you want my personal opinion, that is an interpretation of youth from the perspective of an older (and biased) generation. Current grandparents said the same thing about their children in the 70's. The truth is, we are emphasizing different (and I would argue better, but that's subjective) points in our education system. The study above covers raw facts and knowledge. Knowledge varies from generation to generation. For example, the current generation may not be keen on their civil war facts, but they could tell you a whole lot more about computer technology in all of its useful applications. How could you judge which knowledge is more significant? Furthermore, our current education puts a much greater emphasis on understanding concepts versus memorizing raw data. Is it really better to teach when the civil war took place or why it took place and how it has impacted our nation? In the end, if intelligence is derived from knowledge, and knowledge is situational, then the teenagers of today are no more or less intelligent or knowledgable than past generations. They are merely a different culture with different values and ideals. Past knowledge is no more or less important than current knowledge. If the New York Times or anyone else cannot see that from their perspective then they are, ironically, "stunningly ignorant." So history isn't important? Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sex Panther Posted February 29, 2008 Members Share Posted February 29, 2008 If you want my personal opinion, that is an interpretation of youth from the perspective of an older (and biased) generation. Current grandparents said the same thing about their children in the 70's.The truth is, we are emphasizing different (and I would argue better, but that's subjective) points in our education system. The study above covers raw facts and knowledge. Knowledge varies from generation to generation. For example, the current generation may not be keen on their civil war facts, but they could tell you a whole lot more about computer technology in all of its useful applications. How could you judge which knowledge is more significant?Furthermore, our current education puts a much greater emphasis on understanding concepts versus memorizing raw data. Is it really better to teach when the civil war took place or why it took place and how it has impacted our nation?In the end, if intelligence is derived from knowledge, and knowledge is situational, then the teenagers of today are no more or less intelligent or knowledgable than past generations. They are merely a different culture with different values and ideals. Past knowledge is no more or less important than current knowledge. If the New York Times or anyone else cannot see that from their perspective then they are, ironically, "stunningly ignorant." PWNT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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