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Friday Influences Thread 03.20.09


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What has influenced you in the past -- or since the last FIT?

 

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Machismo lyrics in falsetto! Falsetto harmonies! Funky bass lines and a string section! DISCO!!! I love these guys. Tons of killer songs.

 

There was some horrible music that came out of the disco era, but none of it came from the Bee Gees.

 

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My biggest influences of the week were negative. First, a "rapper" turned "singer," Lil Wayne's "Prom Queen":

 

[you'll need to click through to the Lil Wayne YouTube page to play this; embedding is turned off. Just click where you see the embedding off message.]

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and -- though this vid [of unknown 'officialness'] doesn't do the sheer avalanche of awfulness ANY justice whatsoever -- in this case the YouTube audio mangling actually sounds better than the official release (which I spent some anti-quality time with) -- Times New Viking:

 

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Blue..the first vid didn't work and the 2nd was aweful...how did it influence you? How to wear earplugs?

 

how to get FULL COMMERCIAL loudness??

 

I agree with wwwjd - "Sounds like amature garage band failure mixing to me". The fact that it seems to be a purposeful imitation of the incompetent engineering/mixing on many lo-fi 80's post punk tracks is a little perverse (those records were successful in that the songs and performances were strong enough to overcome the crappy sound, and not the other way around) but I don't that that elevates TNV over run of the mill badness.

 

The Bee Gees on the other hand ... :love:. When I was 10 years old I wore out the vinyl grooves on side one of the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack.

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Blue..the first vid didn't work and the 2nd was aweful...how did it influence you? How to wear earplugs?

 

Just click in the middle of the vid area where it says "embedding disabled" to go to the YT page and watch you'll be... amazed... that you did.

 

Yeah... with TNV the schtick definitely seems to be almost a parody of bad lo fi rock. 'Funny thing' is that it's on a big label, Warner's Maverick (no longer owned by Madonna).

 

I guess the influences cited are basically just a reinforcement of my decision to thumb my nose at the entire commercial musical establishment, who increasingly appear to be the most culturally, aesthetically, and probably ethcially bankrupt generation of hacks and sleazebags in a long, long line of hacks and sleazebags running all the way back to the Capone organization and its control of musicians, jukeboxes, unions, and licensing organizations.

 

At least the Capone folks and their compatriots in other regions tended to have much better taste in music.

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Wilco made me more conscious of how subtle vocal changes can make a huge impact. He's writes good lyrics.. but just as important.. his delivery. He showed me how to raise the importance of a simple lyric and change it's meaning completely.

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Wilco made me more conscious of how subtle vocal changes can make a huge impact. He's writes good lyrics.. but just as important.. his delivery. He showed me how to raise the importance of a simple lyric and change it's meaning completely.

You just like him 'cause you guys look like cousins. :D

 

 

PS... I've come to like Wilco quite well, myself, though I was turned off to them when I bought my first of their albums (their second, Being There) which, at the time, just sounded like washed out post-Stones rock to me. I definitely didn't give it much of a chance. (I preferred the 'other' Uncle Tupelo spin-off, Jay Ferrar's Sun Volt -- though Ferrar's patented voice has worn on me a little over the years.) But Yankee Hotel Foxtrot got me to give them a second listen and I was really glad I did... I was really premature in writing Wilco/Tweedy off and they're now one of my favorite contemporary bands.

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Stackabones: I'm with you on the Bee Gees.

Arif Mardin, my all time favorite producer, is the

one who talked Barry Gibb into trying his falsetto.

It turned their career around.

 

I tend to like Disco. Immensely influential in our time.

 

I sometimes ask myself two questions when I hear this song.

 

1. How is it possible to write a song this good?

 

2. How is it possible to write such a killer orchestration?

 

The vocal phase-shifting FX sound eerily post-modern today.

Throw in a theremin with a very touching orchestration, and

you have something that still sounds fresh.

 

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The chord pattern on on this Cole Porter song has influenced a few of mine.

I've also made my own orchestration of this song. Very un-swing but very up-tempo.

 

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Cole Porter was all about passion. His music was made for Bossa Nova.

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I really enjoyed the Becker-Fagan video too rsadasiv.

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And you can see why I like lots of lyrics. ;)

 

There was Johnny McEldo and McGee and me

and a couple two or three went on a spree one day

we had a bob or two which we knew how to blew

and the beer and whiskey flew and we all felt gay

we visited McCann's McIlman's, Humpty Dan's

we then went into Swan's our stomach's for to pack

we ordered up a feed which indeed we did need

and we finished it with speed but we still felt slack


Johnny McEldo turned to red, white and blue

when a plate of Irish stew he soon put out of sight

He shouted,"Encore!" with a roar for some more

that he never felt before such a keen appetite

he ordered eggs and ham, bread and jam, "what a cram"

but him we couldn't ram though we tried our level best

for everything we bought, cold or hot mattered not

it went down him like a shot and he still stood the test


He swallowed tripe and lard by the yard we got scared

we thought it would go hard when the waiter brought the bill

we told him to give o're but he swore he could lower

twice as much again and more before he had his fill

"He's nearly supped a trough full of broth!", says McGrath

"He'd swallow a tablecloth if we don't hold him in"

McEldo began to groan and I moaned let's go home

and he wouldn't move a bone he just sat with a grin


when the waiter brought the charge, McEldo felt so large

he began to scowl and barge and his blood went afire

he began to curse and sware, tear his hair in dispair

and to finish the affair, called the shopman a liar

the shopman he drew out and no doubt he did clout

McEldo he kicked about like an old football

he bloodied all his clothes, broke his nose I suppose

he'd a finished him in a few blows in no time at all


McEldo began to growl and to howl by my soul

and he threw an empty bowl at the shopkeeper's head

he struck poor Mickey Flynn, peeled the skin off his chin

and a ruction did begin and we all fought and bled

the peelers did arrive, "Man Alive" for or five

at us they made a drive for us all to march away

we paid for all the mate, what we ate, stood a trait

and went home to ruminate on that spree that day

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I've gone back to Death Cab's Plans... and this song in particular. I love it.

 

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and then this from '71. The lyrics are a little maudlin but I still like. And when I was 13... the was the pinnacle. Still is to me in some ways 35+ years later. Love the gospel vibe.

 

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