Members LCK Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 Country music is contagious. Even pop groups and rockers love it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtU_R61TVk4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZpwe-mzb64 Not to mention, the genius known as Ray Charles! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-YqaTDDCDM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G09KKcSFXwU And Ray's first country crossover hit, the Hank Snow song, "Movin' On." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng7Nz6sqARY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted December 27, 2012 Moderators Share Posted December 27, 2012 I find the discussion of what is country far more interesting and relevant that what isn't country. Did Picasso or Dali or Warhol stop and ask, "Wait, is what I'm planning to create here really impressionistic? Or pop art? Does it really fit my genre?No, they created genre. So did Ray Charles. And so does Taylor Swift.Sorry, but the nitpicking of what is or isn't doesn't seem the least bit helpful for an artist. Though I believe it can be very powerful to understand a genre and its trappings, but to then base value on how close a given artist comes serves only to limit. And while I love self imposed limitations to spur on creativity, I still need autonomy. Don't fence me in daddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LCK Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 Originally Posted by Lee Knight Don't fence me in daddy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxUbhWF-rbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-yvpswc5w0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members oldgitplayer Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 Originally Posted by Lee Knight Don't fence me in daddy. 'And but for the sky, there are no fences facing And if you hear vague traces of skippin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted December 27, 2012 Moderators Share Posted December 27, 2012 Funny enough... when I was 15 and a young little rocker, I met up with my soon to be best friends for the rest of my life. I started learning the chords to CCR tunes, Beatle songs, Deep Purple, Stones, Buddy Holly, I got a real honest to goodness education in rock and roll. But the drummer and 1st guitarist were adamant, country is rock and roll in a lot of ways. So they taught me lots of songs at 15. From your list Lee, here's the ones I learned at 15 and played to young rock crowds if you can believe that!!!!Wabash CannonballBlue Moon of KentuckyJambalayaRing of FireI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LCK Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 Originally Posted by Lee Knight Funny enough... country is rock and roll Very true. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_3nYixwNn0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 Did Picasso or Dali or Warhol stop and ask, "Wait, is what I'm planning to create here really impressionistic? Or pop art? Does it really fit my genre? Something tells me Lee's near-encyclopedic knowledge of pop may not extend to art history. But his point is a good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted December 27, 2012 Moderators Share Posted December 27, 2012 Originally Posted by Lee Knight I find the discussion of what is country far more interesting and relevant that what isn't country. Did Picasso or Dali or Warhol stop and ask, "Wait, is what I'm planning to create here really impressionistic? Or pop art? Does it really fit my genre? No, they created genre. So did Ray Charles. And so does Taylor Swift. Sorry, but the nitpicking of what is or isn't doesn't seem the least bit helpful for an artist. Though I believe it can be very powerful to understand a genre and its trappings, but to then base value on how close a given artist comes serves only to limit. And while I love self imposed limitations to spur on creativity, I still need autonomy. Don't fence me in daddy. Originally Posted by blue2blue Something tells me Lee's near-encyclopedic knowledge of pop may not extend to art history. But his point is a good one! yeah... well... hey. Cubism, Surrealism, Pop. I'm not an art expert, no. But I actually knew that none of those guys were impressionistic and what camp they belong to. I was just making points and taking names! Kind of a hasty drive by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members oldgitplayer Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 Originally Posted by Lee Knight I'm not an art expert, no. But I actually knew that none of those guys were impressionistic and what camp they belong to. I was just making points and taking names! Kind of a hasty drive by. Sort of like someone not that familiar with the music scene making a hasty drive by putting Pat Boone, Andy Williams and Barry Manilow in the Heavy Metal camp....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LCK Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 Originally Posted by Lee Knight Sixteen Days on the Road Smoke that Cigarette The Race in On Tennessee Flat Top Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LCK Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 Crossover songs (pop & country hits) from the 1970s, sung by chick singers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGEubdH8m0s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted December 28, 2012 Moderators Share Posted December 28, 2012 Originally Posted by oldgitplayer Sort of like someone not that familiar with the music scene making a hasty drive by putting Pat Boone, Andy Williams and Barry Manilow in the Heavy Metal camp....... And for that I'd like to apologize to all those kids that bought Pat Boone records.:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oldgitplayer Posted December 28, 2012 Members Share Posted December 28, 2012 I never knew anyone who owned a Pat Boone record. When I bought my 1st 78's in the late 50's, it was only the rockers - Presley, Holly, Jerry Lee, Little Richard. Pat Boone was the paragon of the uncool.We didn't ever hear true American country music on the radio. I thought 'Kisses Sweeter than Wine' was Country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted December 28, 2012 Members Share Posted December 28, 2012 Explanatory note: I've been out of commission. Two words: kidney stone. Try not to have one. [Mine is small (3 mm) but oh my! "Like child birth," the nurses say.] Anyway, between hospital visits these past two days, and two types of painkiller (leaving me even stupider than usual) it's such a joy to read all your postings. I could speak to all of them, but just to focus on one . . . ("Get off the computer!" says she who must be obeyed.) Hit send, don't edit.---Thanks Lee, for those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted December 28, 2012 Members Share Posted December 28, 2012 Shhh . . . I'm back. Just long enough to say Dorothy Moore is 66 now and a record label owner. Her Wiki entry notes that her music's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LCK Posted December 28, 2012 Members Share Posted December 28, 2012 Originally Posted by Mark Blackburn "Misty Blue"' is a song written by Bob Montgomery in 1966 which has become a hit in the pop, C&W and soul fields through various versions, the most successful being the 1976 pop/soul hit by Dorothy Moore. I worked in Top-40 radio for both R&B incarnations of this tune, and remember it only vaguely. I found this version which I think shows how it could have been a hit on both C&W and R&B charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted December 28, 2012 Members Share Posted December 28, 2012 . . . if they take me back to Texasthey won't take me back alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LCK Posted December 28, 2012 Members Share Posted December 28, 2012 Canadian country singer George Canyon did a recording of the tune as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted December 28, 2012 Members Share Posted December 28, 2012 Originally Posted by oldgitplayer I never knew anyone who owned a Pat Boone record. When I bought my 1st 78's in the late 50's, it was only the rockers - Presley, Holly, Jerry Lee, Little Richard. Pat Boone was the paragon of the uncool. We didn't ever hear true American country music on the radio. I thought 'Kisses Sweeter than Wine' was Country. I owned that tribute to Latino culture, "Speedy Gonzales." I think I bought it for a dime in the cut-out bin. That's pretty much how I started my record collection. My weekly allowance was $.40 so saving up $.59 to a buck for a single wasn't going to happen. It was my innate cheapness that led me to discover albums. 59 cents for two songs or 2 bucks for an LP with 12 songs. After my allowance (and concomitant chores) increased to $1 and I started building my first stereo, I bought all albums -- of course, stereo 45 singles were all but nonexistent back then -- and, despite the higher RPM, the record companies used the worst, must stepped on recycled vinyl [complete with ground up labels] for the singles and then compounded the horror by squashing the living daylights out of them on a selective basis -- a stack of singles on a changer would have you jumping back and forth, since some of them would be squashed down to an effective dynamic b/w of about 10-12 dB for competitive loudness reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted December 28, 2012 Members Share Posted December 28, 2012 Lyrics and flavor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted December 29, 2012 Members Share Posted December 29, 2012 It's been 18 years since the release of a Grammy-winning concept album, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members saturn1 Posted December 29, 2012 Members Share Posted December 29, 2012 Is it country, is it blues, is it rock n roll? The lineage to Buddy Holly or Carl Perkins is as strong as the line to Hank Williams. The telecaster licks are born of James Burton. Or this, country with an edge A little more traditional, but certainly not Nashville country: Then there's Lucinda Williams, Mary Gauthier, Steve Earle, Lyle Lovett. It's enough to make your head spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted December 29, 2012 Members Share Posted December 29, 2012 These guys got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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