Members humancertainty Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 I'll add Kris Kristopherson, Johnny Cash, and John Prine to the list. It's Kristofferson. Great choices, though.Hank Williams, Sr. is the best ever. No ifs, ands, or buts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members restart Posted March 24, 2010 Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 In no particular order: John Lennon/Paul McCartneyStingDavid BowieBurt Bachrach/Hal DavidCarly SimonHank Williams, Sr.Bob DylanElton John/Bernie TaupinJames BrownKenny Gamble/Leon HuffBob Marley Can't seem to separate them, in my mind they all form a brilliant sphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wyzsard Posted March 24, 2010 Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 In no particular order: John Lennon/Paul McCartney Sting David Bowie Burt Bachrach/Hal David Carly Simon Hank Williams, Sr. Bob Dylan Elton John/ Bernie Taupin James Brown Kenny Gamble/Leon Huff Bob Marley Can't seem to separate them, in my mind they all form a brilliant sphere. Taupin is the man, or at least has to be in the top 10. Talk about a hell of a lyric... "This song was written by Rory Lee Feek and Jamie Teachener after Rory got a call from his daughter's school. They told Rory his daughter wanted to come home because her friend's boyfriend killed himself, and they found the body that morning." Or Bill Anderson's Whiskey Lullaby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rockinrobby Posted March 24, 2010 Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 I think it's a toss up between me? And Jackson Browne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wyzsard Posted March 24, 2010 Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 I think it's a toss up between me? And Jackson Browne? ya think ? Jackson does write well. Heck, everyone mentioned in the thread does I don't think there is one who stands out over the rest. I think a writer just get's to the level of being as good as it gets, and is in the group of those just separated from one another by their audience. jmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChordGirl Posted March 24, 2010 Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 It's Kristofferson. Great choices, though. Hank Williams, Sr. is the best ever. No ifs, ands, or buts. I never spell his name right. on the Hank, Sr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Li Shenron Posted March 24, 2010 Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 Lennon/McCartney Frank Zappa Ennio Morricone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted March 24, 2010 Moderators Share Posted March 24, 2010 For about 10 years... Elvis Costello. John and Paul George and Ira King Simon Bacharat and David Nilsson for a couple songs. Ham for a couple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MDR Posted March 24, 2010 Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 In terms of cross-cultural/multicultural impact, it has to be Bob Marley. His music spread worldwide, even transcending linguistic groups (the influence of all other writers mentioned here is pretty much restricted to the english-speaking world). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dparr Posted March 24, 2010 Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 In terms of cross-cultural/multicultural impact, it has to be Bob Marley. His music spread worldwide, even transcending linguistic groups (the influence of all other writers mentioned here is pretty much restricted to the english-speaking world). Not all! [YOUTUBE]0_eIzpZzGKo[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliftonb Posted March 24, 2010 Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 To me its Ned Rorem as far as art songs go. And I'm surprised and a little disappointed that Kate Bush is absent from this discussion. In no particular order: Paolo ConteJacques BrelSalif KeitaDavid SylvianBjorkJez LowePaddy McAloonJoe Henry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted March 24, 2010 Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 What about the Guy Clark of jazzy blues, Mose Allison? It was the mention of Joe Henry above, who produced Mose' new album, that prodded me to think of Mose. Of course, Mose is no Lenny Cohen, but he's written some mighty fine songs, from "Parchman Farm" to "Young Man's Blues" to "Your Mind Is on Vacation (But Your Mouth Is Working Overtime)." Or how about Gene Clark? Or... I'm stopping now or we'll get one of my famous 75+ lists of songwriters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted March 24, 2010 Moderators Share Posted March 24, 2010 I sat 5 feet from Mose's piano and watched the whole set that way. I love him. I love Edgar Winter ane Edgar borrows just a tad from Mose. The good stuff at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tbry Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 What, not a Chuck Berry in the house? Lennon/Macca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jersey Jack Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Chris Christie? Eminently qualified to be the big boss man by most any real world measure, be it Metric or Avoirdupois. Well, NO...[sputter]...NO. That is not what I meant at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChordGirl Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Dolly Parton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ontological Posted March 26, 2010 Members Share Posted March 26, 2010 OK, OK, I'll say it...It's MEEEEE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted March 26, 2010 Moderators Share Posted March 26, 2010 What, not a Chuck Berry in the house? Lennon/Macca Chuck Berry. Great unsung poet, I swear. I preach the gospel of Chuck frequently. Good call. He has godlike status in my book just for this: I saw her from the corner when she turned and doubled back And started walkin' toward a coffee colored cadillac I was pushin' through the crowd to get to where she's at And I was campaign shouting like a southern diplomat Downtown searching for her, looking all around. Saw her getting in a yellow cab heading up town. I caught a loaded taxi, paid up everybody's tab. With a twenty dollar bill, told him 'catch that yellow cab.' She move around like a wave of summer breeze, go, driver, go, go, catch her balmy breeze. Moving thru the traffic like a mounted cavalier. Leaning out the taxi window trying to make her hear. Just speak those words out loud and you dig the genius of Chuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Etienne Rambert Posted March 26, 2010 Members Share Posted March 26, 2010 That guy rocked.) I know that scene well. Busby Berkley was a genius of the 20th Century. Bollywood still has nothing on him. I've always thought of BB as an American surrealist. Some of his production numbers were positively Dali-esque. And I don't think he'd ever heard of Dali when he was doing them. But the way he could create astonishing illusions using large numbers of women's legs has taken my breath away more than once. A true genius. A true visionary. And his most commercially successful sequences were also triumphs of surrealism. He was America's Dali, Bosch or Escher.And those comparisons don't really do him justice, IMO. 3Q59ZncmAtQ RuCG3Rle7qE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Todzilla Posted March 26, 2010 Members Share Posted March 26, 2010 George GershwinAaron CopelandLeonard BernsteinCole PorterJohnny MercerThelonious MonkLennon/McCartneyLamont DozierElvis CostelloAndy PartridgeTodzilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members musicfan999 Posted January 27, 2013 Members Share Posted January 27, 2013 Matximus wrote: I'd say greatest and most influential songwriter living songwriter today is Max Martin. He's a genius - from Hit Me Baby to My Life Would Suck Without You and all of the great hits he's cowritten in the last 15 years or so. He's an unassuming legend. People that really understand songwriting know that he has an extremely rare gift to write and produce music that consistently connects with a lot of people. What a load of old crap! Legend and Max Martin will NEVER belong in the same sentence!! He's nothing more than a failed swedish rock singer, who was lucky enough to produce Britney Spears and The Backstreet Boys at the beginning of their career. Ever since he's used his "genius" - more like pulling power to monoplize everything. P!nk sold out to him, so did Avril Lavigne, so did Christina Aguilera. As a result all their records suck now. Britney and the Backstreet Boys fans never cared about the crap that they were singing and he's been given a free ride off of their backs, not the other way around. By the way I understand that you are a total idiot: I understand more about songwriting that you do and people like Max Martin are ten a penny. There are geniuses out there that can write better than him. And as long as Paul McCartney, Barry Gibb, Brian Wilson, David Bowie, Diane Warren and RedOne are on the planet Max Martin will never be the greatest, ever. I can't believe you wrote such a moronic talent about someone who is nothing more than an opportunist, not a talented songwriter. I feel ever sorry for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LCK Posted January 27, 2013 Members Share Posted January 27, 2013 Todzilla wrote: George Gershwin Aaron Copeland Leonard Bernstein Cole Porter Johnny Mercer Thelonious Monk Lennon/McCartney Lamont Dozier Elvis Costello Andy Partridge TodzillaNice list. But don't forget Brian Wilson. Or Townes Van Zandt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nat whilk II Posted January 29, 2013 Members Share Posted January 29, 2013 The other room I frequent around here (SSS) is so desolate, I might come over and hang here now and again if that's alright...I do write songs. Any free drinks? So....oh, this is a nice $2 Chablis!!...about the greatest songwriter....I'm afraid I just don't know who that might be. I'd rather discuss which note is the greatest note ever played. Any more of that Chablis left? nat whilk ii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted January 29, 2013 Moderators Share Posted January 29, 2013 I've got some good stuff over here Nat. Have a sip, and see if you like it. I'll be happy to pour you a glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bee3 Posted January 30, 2013 Members Share Posted January 30, 2013 nat whilk II wrote: The other room I frequent around here (SSS) is so desolate, I might come over and hang here now and again if that's alright...I do write songs. Any free drinks? So....oh, this is a nice $2 Chablis!!...about the greatest songwriter....I'm afraid I just don't know who that might be. I'd rather discuss which note is the greatest note ever played. Any more of that Chablis left? nat whilk ii Welcome. Post away. Make it interesting. I'll sign you up for the beer of the month club. I'll just need your credit card info and your social security number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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