Members J.Paul Posted September 15, 2011 Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 Blackheart is owned by Cratebut they're claiming to be boutique.Can someone clarify this for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chriscnb Posted September 15, 2011 Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 Ha, since when is Blackheart considered boutique? I've never heard them claim to be...link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NixerX Posted September 15, 2011 Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 I actually own one. and im a fan. They use better components and a better circuit designed by some amp guru..peter something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benjamin801 Posted September 15, 2011 Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 I don't know that they claim to be "boutique." The three things that are most notable about them are that they're owned by Crate's parent company, their amps are designed by Peter Belov, and their factory is in China, and they aren't exactly secretive about any of the three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J.Paul Posted September 15, 2011 Author Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 Ha, since when is Blackheart considered boutique? I've never heard them claim to be...link? Link?If I had internet links to verify the things I'm hearing in real life I wouldn't be asking questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grunge782 Posted September 15, 2011 Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 Boutique is a very tricky word and is a big grey area. It's usage has now become more of a buzzword for "good tone" than anything else. Personally I wouldn't call Blackheart boutique, but that doesn't suddenly mean they sound worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J.Paul Posted September 15, 2011 Author Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 I don't know that they claim to be "boutique." The three things that are most notable about them are that they're owned by Crate's parent company, their amps are designed by Peter Belov, and their factory is in China, and they aren't exactly secretive about any of the three. AAhh!ok that makes senseI see..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elemenope Posted September 15, 2011 Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 I heard Line 6 was boutique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted September 15, 2011 Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 Anyone want to buy my booteek behringer echo machine?Opening offers from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mel Cooley Posted September 15, 2011 Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 Yes, the same way that GFS' rebranded Biyang pedals have "boutique" sound. They're selling sizzle, not truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J.Paul Posted September 15, 2011 Author Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 Anyone want to buy my booteek behringer echo machine?Opening offers from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitargod0dmw Posted September 15, 2011 Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 I've never heard of them claiming to be boutique... They would be fooling themselves if they are in any way shape or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J.Paul Posted September 15, 2011 Author Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 I just got one and like it alotalthough I haven't used it live yet (just tinkering at home....)....would have liked to have know about the endorsement we have BEFORE hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J.Paul Posted September 15, 2011 Author Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 I've never heard of them claiming to be boutique...They would be fooling themselves if they are in any way shape or form. Okthat's probably some bunk I've been hearing then....my Little Giant sounds pretty good though (except for metal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tech21man Posted September 15, 2011 Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 I didn't exactly appreciate the fact that when you look a transformer on blackhearts it has a limited frequency range...up to 5 khz. I don't know if they do it on purpose but many guitar speakers sparkle above that. Still many amp builders speak highly of the construction compared to china made oranges or jet citys. But, still it is not as if you will find ptp, turret boards, chassis mounted tubes and extra expensive components or speakers. Boutique my ass but still decent and great value for the price? Can be a winner product nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J.Paul Posted September 15, 2011 Author Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 I actually own one. and im a fan. They use better components and a better circuit designed by some amp guru..peter something. What speakers are you using w/ it??I'm still looking for the right speaker and cab for it (I don't like the Blackheart Cabs).I'd looking for a 1x12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NixerX Posted September 15, 2011 Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 What speakers are you using w/ it?? I'm still looking for the right speaker and cab for it (I don't like the Blackheart Cabs). I'd looking for a 1x12 V30's typically. G12-75's, Greenbacks, Emi Swamp thangs, Splawn big blocks, small blocks etc...whatever I got Lying around at the time. here is a clip I did a long time ago with WHGS vet30's using a Behringer () Vintage Tube Monster. http://netmusicians.org/?section=id&value=876 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peavey_impact Posted September 15, 2011 Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 What's up with the 100 watt Hot Head? Price is insanely low and the specs are nice....never heard any clips or anything about em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NixerX Posted September 15, 2011 Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 What's up with the 100 watt Hot Head? Price is insanely low and the specs are nice....never heard any clips or anything about em Yea man.. I was definitely down to check one out. It it were ANYTHING like the Little Giant with a 100w power section that could be gold! edit: video[video=youtube;68o4G1s7des] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted September 15, 2011 Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 I have a Killer ant and love it . sounds like (clean)http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=9523559 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J.Paul Posted September 15, 2011 Author Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 V30's typically. G12-75's, Greenbacks, Emi Swamp thangs, Splawn big blocks, small blocks etc...whatever I got Lying around at the time. here is a clip I did a long time ago with WHGS vet30's using a Behringer ( ) Vintage Tube Monster. http://netmusicians.org/?section=id&value=876 Yeah man, nice not really the application I'm using it for. I tried it with a G12-75 yesterday it was decent (but it was in an open back cabinet) and an Emi redfang and was decent (but it was in a 2x12). Guitar Center had a Tweaker that sounded the best so far (had a grill/vent in the back) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitar_face Posted September 15, 2011 Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 Pfft, only Bugera makes boutique versions of current amps. These guys are dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members teemuk Posted September 15, 2011 Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 "Crate" is merely a brand/trademark. It's owner (today) is LOUD Technologies that also owns the "Blackheart" brand. Yes, they initially tried to introduce the amps to the markets as inexpensive "boutique" designed by a famous tube amp guru, and yes, they didn't exactly advertise that the amps actually come from the same company that makes Ampeg and Crate, or that the amps are actually mass-produced in Asia; rather they tried to be somewhat silent about it and push the boutique / designed-by-amp-guru image. Anyway, it didn't take long for people to find out they were really just another brand from LOUD, produced cheaply in China and that the amp guru was just another memeber from the designer crew of the Crate/Ampeg amps. ...so they dropped off the boutique marketing strategy pretty quickly. For a moment, few people bought it though. And since Bugera was mentioned, they - for a while - managed to exploit the "boutique" marketing strategy too, and when those amps were advertised I remember a lot of folks drooling all over them in anticipation to see them in stores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NixerX Posted September 15, 2011 Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 Yeah man, nicenot really the application I'm using it for.I tried it with a G12-75 yesterday it was decent (but it was in an open back cabinet)and an Emi redfang and was decent (but it was in a 2x12).Guitar Center had a Tweaker that sounded the best so far (had a grill/vent in the back) You went wrong with the open back. I hate the 75 in an open back..but its probably my favorite speaker in a sealed cab. A Greenback would be awesome in a 1x12 open back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted September 15, 2011 Members Share Posted September 15, 2011 yeah because it says "Crate" right on it Still cool little amps though . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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