MacBook Air has some competition

[redeye5]

Hell {censored}ing yes, biggest difference in computers EVER. Im frontin 2 120GB Corsair Force 120GBs in a RAID-0 Array. I could not possibly go back to normal mechanical drives. No chance ever.

[Captain Commie]

I've always wondered as a comp sci major if I took a distro of linux and blatantly copied the apple GUI, touch pad set up, and then took one of those asus machines and slapped an apple on the back could I sell it to people as an apple product? I probably should set up business in some third world country that doesn't give two {censored}s about IP rights and see if I can get rich.

[gt_jumper]

This was initially why I went apple. It was great: Firepod setup on OSX: 1. open box 2. plug in PSU to firepod 3. plug in firewire 400 cable to mac and firepod 4. turn it on. Done.

 

 

Here is the best (of many) arguments leaning towards macs for recording, windows will never see another of my stems....

[wok]

LOL No not really, just like how Macboi's think arrogance is a substitute for... well... everything!

 

meanwhile, Windows fanboi keeps yapping

 

 

[LaXu]

 

It's about the level I've come to expect from Mac types. Are your panties wet because Asus kicks Mac's asses?

 

 

You know you could basically swap the brand names in your post and it would be equal to someone else's experience with PCs and Windows. I much prefer doing my work on Macs. Better development tools, the OS doesn't get in the way etc. I had a Mac Pro where the hard drive was failing (would've been an easy fix) but after that got a 27" iMac and it's a joy to work on that. I personally own a 2009 13" Macbook Pro and it's been wonderfully troublefree. I even used it in the army and it never game me grief. I like Apple's stuff a lot but my home machine is a desktop PC with a whopping huge display running Win7.

 

As for Asus..it took my friend several months to get his laptop fixed and then it was back to being loaded with bloatware. The machine itself has the worst analog audio output ever and the HDMI can't push beyond 1920x1200 (I use a 2560x1600 display at home so Displayport is a must). I do think they have some great machines though, that particular one just isn't all that great. Trackpad is still {censored}.

 

PS. Quick googling came up with several hard drive recovery tools for Mac. It's also easy to read HFS+ disks on Windows so you could just as well grab a drive from a Mac and recover it on any other machine. Likewise MS Office works fine on the Mac even though Apple's iWork is IME the superior software for anything but spreadsheets.

[Gaindrain]

 

This is why I initially went to Mac: ProTools, driver free installation, nice OS, nice looks   This is why I went back to PC within 6 months after paying out

[yanktar]

It's not that Microsoft and Windows is "Da Bomb", though Win 7 Pro is surprisingly good and reliable. It's that there's ALWAYS a rational way to get around a Windows deficiency, and Windows machines are usually fixable forever. Apple machines when they work and do what you want can be a pleasure. But when they fail, their sealed nature makes repair expensive, if even possible, snide Apple help annoying, and what should be simple jobs become time consumingly expensive.

 

Say the battery on my iPad fails (All too common). I have to take it to the Apple store, and pay a fortune to have it replaced, or wait. My son's iPhone, the same, and when we got it, AT&T told us Apple does NOT warranty the battery for even one day.

 

OTOH, on my Samsung Galaxy, if the battery starts to fail, I buy a new one and pop it in. Done and done. Memory fails, I buy a new one and pop it in. Done and done. Why does Apple not have simple battery replacement? Because Steve Jobs had a PHOBIA about users actually being able to open his equipment, a phobia that went back to the ORIGINAL MacIntosh. If you opened it, you voided the warranty. It was SO expensive and SO crippled that eventually Apple was forced to allow people to open their Macs to install cards and hard drives and upgrades. But 27 years ago Jobs ALREADY believed only HE knew best.

 

It's that Apple attitude that there's only one way to do things, their way, and you have to PAY them to do it. I'm having to re-rip my videos from AVI to MP4 because the IOS 5.1 won't allow transfers by 3rd party file managers and video players of files larger than 350megs. Luckily, Super @ is still free and does it.

 

Yeah, Windows has problems. Going back to DOS 2.0, Bill Gates violated basic op system design rules and carried that violation into Windows and all the way forward: Namely absolutely isolating the OS from modification by ANY app. Yet any user knows even uninstalling s/w may leave problems in the registry.

 

But, ultimately, you can get under the hood in Windows. You can't in Apple.

[Kev369]

 

But, ultimately, you can get under the hood in Windows. You can't in Apple.

 

 

Exactly.

[LaXu]

 

OTOH, on my Samsung Galaxy, if the battery starts to fail, I buy a new one and pop it in. Done and done. Memory fails, I buy a new one and pop it in. Done and done. Why does Apple not have simple battery replacement? But, ultimately, you can get under the hood in Windows. You can't in Apple.

 

 

Ah, the many times I've seen phones dropped only to scatter into little piece of at least the battery, possibly the sim (on old phones) and the rest of the phone. I much prefer to have the phone sealed. However, there are plenty of guides to disassemble an iPhone yourself and there are 3rd party batteries available so it's not like you can't do it. My friend even replaced the glass display on his iPhone 3G. Of course this voids the warranty but it's doable if you no longer have warranty on your phone anyway.

 

Also I think you meant getting under the hood of a PC. Again this is possible on a Mac, though the only components you can generally replace are memory, hard drive and optical drive (if you want to cram a second HDD or SSD in its place or just swap the optical drive) on the iMac and Macbooks, add graphics card if you have the Mac Pro. Yes, it is a bit more involved and at least with the iMac may void the warranty because you have to remove the display to get to the innards.

[wok]

I always wonder what people refer to when they say Windows is more tweakable. What exactly are they referring to when all they do is play games and watch porn

[eco1]

 

I've always wondered as a comp sci major if I took a distro of linux and blatantly copied the apple GUI, touch pad set up, and then took one of those asus machines and slapped an apple on the back could I sell it to people as an apple product? I probably should set up business in some third world country that doesn't give two {censored}s about IP rights and see if I can get rich.

 

 

as studies reveal, you don't need to move from the USA, just wait until 2032 and you will be living in a 3rd world country yourself

[OceansBetweenUs]

I always wonder what people refer to when they say Windows is more tweakable. What exactly are they referring to when all they do is play games and watch porn

you forgot creep on facebook looking for bikini pictures of potential hookups.


I prefer my Windows laptop to my ex-gf's and my sister's Mac stuff..

[wok]

 

But, ultimately, you can get under the hood in Windows. You can't in Apple.

 

 

yes you can

[NixerX]

 

Ah, the many times I've seen phones dropped only to scatter into little piece of at least the battery, possibly the sim (on old phones) and the rest of the phone. I much prefer to have the phone sealed. However, there are plenty of guides to disassemble an iPhone yourself and there are 3rd party batteries available so it's not like you can't do it. My friend even replaced the glass display on his iPhone 3G. Of course this voids the warranty but it's doable if you no longer have warranty on your phone anyway. Also I think you meant getting under the hood of a PC. Again this is possible on a Mac, though the only components you can generally replace are memory, hard drive and optical drive (if you want to cram a second HDD or SSD in its place or just swap the optical drive) on the iMac and Macbooks, add graphics card if you have the Mac Pro. Yes, it is a bit more involved and at least with the iMac may void the warranty because you have to remove the display to get to the innards.

 

 

You speak reason sir...but I dont think some people want to hear logic.

 

FWIW working on any apple product sucks due to how tightly they put their devices together. With a PC that cheap feel equated to reassembly wiggle room.

 

Ill take the tight tolerances and better build TYVM as Ive rarely had to enter a Mac ive owned. and had to several times when I worked for Colby College many years ago. They are a BIG mac shop.

[The Anomaly]

You speak reason sir...but I dont think some people want to hear logic.

So, because someone wants to be able to either swap their battery or SD card, in seconds, without tools or breaking a warranty, they aren't "logical"??

Explain that one to me.

Do you take your guitar to the repair shop to have it's strings changed to OEM instead of doing it yourself, or have you ever changed the tubes on your amps at all?

[yanktar]

So, because someone wants to be able to either swap their battery or SD card, in seconds, without tools or breaking a warranty, they aren't "logical"?? Explain that one to me. Do you take your guitar to the repair shop to have it's strings changed to OEM instead of doing it yourself, or have you ever changed the tubes on your amps at all?

 

You, sir, are cheating! You aren't allowed to use logic and reason. The Best is Apple because Apple is the Best. Don't you get that?

IN THE FUTURE ANY CRITICISM OF ANY APPLE PRODUCT WILL BE SUBJECT TO SUMMARY REMOVAL OF ALL INTERNET, COMPUTER, AND PHONE USAGE FOR LIFE!

[Kev369]

I always wonder what people refer to when they say Windows is more tweakable. What exactly are they referring to when all they do is play games and watch porn

Because I want to watch porn quickly and discretely - and not have to deal with syncing it to every {censored}ing electronic device I own, making sure its not a commonly used file format and not having Apple personally notified every time I do.

[Phillbis]

The ASUS Zenbook that they show in the picture is very close to the 13.3 Macbook Air in specs and price. The Zenbook sells for $1099 while the comparable Macbook Air sells for $1299. My local best buy has the ASUS and it does look very similar to the Macbook Air. In fact, I picked it up and said oh, Apple is going to sue ASUS!

I actually bought a 13.3" Macbook and couldn't be happier. I paid $1299 and bought it the week before Black Friday. Apple actually dropped the price othe Air for Black Friday by $101 and refunded me this when I called them.

The things that sold me on the Macbook are the touch pad and the backlit keyboard. As an Ipad owner it's very intuitive to use the touchpad on the Macbook.


I really have no preference with the OS between Lion and Windows 7. Both have their plusses and minuses. I do have Windows 7 machines at home also. I'm able to swtich between either OS with no problem. The Macbook does boot much more quickly. The one thing that I feel Apple does better than other laptop vendors is that the Macbooks feel like they're put together better. I think that's the one thing that Steve Jobs has always focused on. Aesthetics. Is it worth the price difference between a Windows laptop? Most say no but I haven't people ask to look at my Lenovo ot Toshiba laptop as much as the Macbook Air.

[OceansBetweenUs]

Because I want to watch porn quickly and discretely - and not have to deal with syncing it to every {censored}ing electronic device I own, making sure its not a commonly used file format and not having Apple personally notified every time I do.

[NixerX]

So, because someone wants to be able to either swap their battery or SD card, in seconds, without tools or breaking a warranty, they aren't "logical"?? Explain that one to me. Do you take your guitar to the repair shop to have it's strings changed to OEM instead of doing it yourself, or have you ever changed the tubes on your amps at all?

Thats not what im saying at all....for {censored}s sake...its not impossible to repair you Apple products. If the device is not working what good is the warranty? Besides, if you have apple care you can send it back to apple they will fix. if you don't then you have a year like almost every other product out there. after that....there is plenty of you tube and Internet fixes out there as well as the tools. I payed 99 bucks for replacement LCD screen that came with the tools for my daughters iBook. Further more, most PC laptops(Hundreds btw) ive worked on, while easier to disassemble but still required special tools too. Same with audio players. As for phones... I just got an iphone last week so I haven't had it long enough to report...but I cant imagine it will be any worse in battey life than any of my other phones. Yea its a big pain in the ass to change the battery on it...so...insurance that covers the batter as well as theft and damage. problem solved.

I have never had a prob with any of my apple products. I usually buy apple care for the convenience not because im not able too fix. I have had better customer service with Apple than with ANY other hardware vendor.

YMMV

[The Anomaly]

 

Thats not what im saying at all....for {censored}s sake...its not impossible to repair you Apple products. If the device is not working what good is the warranty? Besides, if you have apple care you can send it back to apple they will fix. if you don't then you have a year like almost every other product out there. after that....there is plenty of you tube and Internet fixes out there as well as the tools. I payed 99 bucks for replacement LCD screen that came with the tools for my daughters iBook. Further more, most PC laptops(Hundreds btw) ive worked on, while easier to disassemble but still required special tools too. Same with audio players. As for phones... I just got an iphone last week so I haven't had it long enough to report...but I cant imagine it will be any worse in battey life than any of my other phones. Yea its a big pain in the ass to change the battery on it...so...insurance that covers the batter as well as theft and damage. problem solved. I have never had a prob with any of my apple products. I usually buy apple care for the convenience not because im not able too fix. I have had better customer service with Apple than with ANY other hardware vendor. YMMV

 

 

By the way, no one should take my posts as an Apple hater, as posted before, I've had my ipod for over 4 years, never a problem, I sync it to itunes on my windows machine, never a problem, I even bought my new aftermarket stereo for my truck, around using an ipod with it. Battery life is still good.

 

I think it's just a cultural thing, and right now I still like a little bit of flexibility like: USB/HDMI, & SD card slots on my Transformer, and free apps/battery & SD card accessibility on my Android phone.

 

Honestly, it's also about having stuff that just works well, and quite like Apple products, my old ass XP notebook, Android phone, and Transformer just work well.

 

I can EASILY see an iPhone, iPad, and/or macbook Air in my future.

[NixerX]

 

By the way, no one should take my posts as an Apple hater, as posted before, I've had my ipod for over 4 years, never a problem, I sync it to itunes on my windows machine, never a problem, I even bought my new aftermarket stereo for my truck, around using an ipod with it. Battery life is still good. I think it's just a cultural thing, and right now I still like a little bit of flexibility like: USB/HDMI, & SD card slots on my Transformer, and free apps/battery & SD card accessibility on my Android phone. Honestly, it's also about having stuff that just works well, and quite like Apple products, my old ass XP notebook, Android phone, and Transformer just work well. I can EASILY see an iPhone, iPad, and/or macbook Air in my future.

 

 

I kinda felt that you were ball busting a bit, that said I agree with what your getting at with the fanboi-ism aspect of it all. I think people should go with what works best for the job regardless of product. for me...Its apple stuff.....most of the time. Apple does their thing REALLY REALLY well marketing aside....so its hard not to consider them...unless of course you are illogical. :poke:

[FastRedPonyCar]

Late to the party but I almost bought a dell XPS 15Z with the i7

http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-15z/pd

Best part is that it DOES come with the slot load dvd drive, SSD harddrive etc.


For a little bit more though, I got a custom barebones laptop currently being built by Xotic PC that's based off the badass new MSI 16F2.

http://www.xoticpc.com/force-16f2012-msi-16f2-preorder-p-3376.html?wconfigure=yes

Skinny sleek portability isn't that big of a deal to me (clearly) Being able to encode an HD video and play skyrim at full settings though however, is.

[HKSblade1]

 

Thats not what im saying at all....for {censored}s sake...its not impossible to repair you Apple products. If the device is not working what good is the warranty? Besides, if you have apple care you can send it back to apple they will fix. if you don't then you have a year like almost every other product out there. after that....there is plenty of you tube and Internet fixes out there as well as the tools. I payed 99 bucks for replacement LCD screen that came with the tools for my daughters iBook. Further more, most PC laptops(Hundreds btw) ive worked on, while easier to disassemble but still required special tools too. Same with audio players. As for phones... I just got an iphone last week so I haven't had it long enough to report...but I cant imagine it will be any worse in battey life than any of my other phones. Yea its a big pain in the ass to change the battery on it...so...insurance that covers the batter as well as theft and damage. problem solved. I have never had a prob with any of my apple products. I usually buy apple care for the convenience not because im not able too fix. I have had better customer service with Apple than with ANY other hardware vendor. YMMV

 

 

iMac in the shop 5x and back in again. {censored}ers can't fix it.

[HKSblade1]

Late to the party but I almost bought a dell XPS 15Z with the i7 http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-15z/pd Best part is that it DOES come with the slot load dvd drive, SSD harddrive etc. For a little bit more though, I got a custom barebones laptop currently being built by Xotic PC that's based off the badass new MSI 16F2. http://www.xoticpc.com/force-16f2012-msi-16f2-preorder-p-3376.html?wconfigure=yes Skinny sleek portability isn't that big of a deal to me (clearly) Being able to encode an HD video and play skyrim at full settings though however, is.

 

Yeah but you miss the show and tell aspect of it?

 

I agree though! Performance over portability