Members AdrianPOA Posted June 29, 2012 Members Share Posted June 29, 2012 I will say this about the NS-2: It's perfectly fine if you don't use an absolute assload of gain on your amp, as in past 12 o' clock on the gain knob. Since I started using Marshalls again and reducing my gain over the years ( a byproduct of de-slopifying my technique), I don't have to have the threshold at 100%, so now I don't notice any noticable sustain cutoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted June 29, 2012 Members Share Posted June 29, 2012 I will say this about the NS-2: It's perfectly fine if you don't use an absolute assload of gain on your amp, as in past 12 o' clock on the gain knob. Since I started using Marshalls again and reducing my gain over the years ( a byproduct of de-slopifying my technique), I don't have to have the threshold at 100%, so now I don't notice any noticable sustain cutoff. yeah but if someone is using more gain than what the NS-2 can handle, chances are their tone is {censored}ty anyway. Might as well be noisy too I used NS-2 with 5150s, DSLs, Laneys etc and never had any issue with it even when using some pretty heavy tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members charveldan Posted June 29, 2012 Members Share Posted June 29, 2012 My standard Decimator has been flawless for over 2+ years and counting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stompboxfreak72 Posted June 29, 2012 Members Share Posted June 29, 2012 My NS2 was a tone suck so I bought a ISP. I dont like to pedal dance but when going from dirt to clean the ISP can start chopping notes down. I have gotten better with it in the last year and its not so much an issue anymore but I struggled at first running the ISP too high. I would prefer the NS2 if it was true bypass or buffered or something better than mine was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crunchtime Posted June 29, 2012 Author Members Share Posted June 29, 2012 another tip is to calibrate it on a medium gain setting, rather than the highest noise amount you are going to use. For instance, I have a 3 channel amp, and if I calibrate the decimator for the large amount of gain I have channel 3 set to, it will over-squash the notes on the 1st and 2nd channels. So basically compromise for something you don't want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elemenope Posted June 29, 2012 Members Share Posted June 29, 2012 Thats exactly what I said about the decimator but everyone acted like I was a dumb ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shiny_Surface Posted June 29, 2012 Members Share Posted June 29, 2012 Anybody else prefer an NS-2 over the Disappointer? Been down the same road, back to the NS-2. Still have the standard Decimator that I used to run in front, never through a loop though.It's a good pedal, just didn't match the frothing hype machine in full swing back in the mid 00's that compelled me to switch at the time.Then one day earlier this year I took it out of the chain and put the NS-2 back in, and I was like damn this isn't as bad as everything I'm reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MyEmergency Posted June 29, 2012 Members Share Posted June 29, 2012 USE IT IN THE LOOP FOR ON BOARD GAIN lol... seriously I hated it in front of the amp, moved it to the loop in my 5150 and it was like {censored}ing magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ShaneV2 Posted June 29, 2012 Members Share Posted June 29, 2012 You must doing something wrong or its broke.. Cause the decimator is absolutely better This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rampage Posted June 29, 2012 Members Share Posted June 29, 2012 Thats exactly what I said about the decimator but everyone acted like I was a dumb ass. We didn't act that way in response to your Decimator comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members iloveespguitars Posted June 29, 2012 Members Share Posted June 29, 2012 I love the decimator. I found puting the decimator at the end of your pedal chain is the best way to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nwright Posted June 30, 2012 Members Share Posted June 30, 2012 So far I think I like my NS-2 better as well...But I'm still getting a handle on the Decimator. It's a cleaner sounding pedal, doesn't affect the tone as much. But I don't find the gate's envelope or the way it decays is any better at all. it does well on high output pickups and high gain, but trying to use it to quiet single coils under medium gain, the one knob doesn't allow fine tuning to keep the gate working cleanly if you mess with your volume knob...I know it will be better once I get used to how it responds, but I never really had to mess with the NS-2 as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members iff Posted June 30, 2012 Members Share Posted June 30, 2012 Don't know how the NS-2 is, but I'm honestly not incredibly impressed with the Decimator I picked up last week. Even with it set low, it'll kill a bunch of clean and crunch dynamics. I've never used a noise gate up until this point and I've been happy, so maybe it's just not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tommy Horrible Posted June 30, 2012 Members Share Posted June 30, 2012 Standard or G string?In loop or in the front?There is absolutely no difference in tone with it on, off, or even completely out of the chain on my rig. This OP is doing it wrong. Decimator rules. {censored} you can dial that bitch up to 12:30 and it wont effect your tone at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tommy Horrible Posted June 30, 2012 Members Share Posted June 30, 2012 What do you set it at with high gain? High gain or Clean doesn't matter dude, it reacts to your pick ups. (unless your rolling back your pick up for cleans, then your {censored}ed) Here is a quick guide to the perfect set up with the decimator. First: find the point where it eliminates all the buzz from your picks ups working the knob clockwise. (for me about 9:30) Second: Find the the point where it lets through all your signal while playing a open E chord working the knob counter clockwise. (for me about 1:00) Third: set the knob at at desirable middle point between those 2 points (for me about 11:30) 4th: enjoy years of feedback free high volume, high gain tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crunchtime Posted June 30, 2012 Author Members Share Posted June 30, 2012 High gain or Clean doesn't matter dude, it reacts to your pick ups. Here is quick guide to the perfect set up with the decimator. First: find the point where it eliminates all the buzz from your picks ups working the knob clockwise. (for me about 9:30)Second: Find the the point where it lets through all your signal while playing a open E chord working the knob counter clockwise. (for me about 1:00)Third: set the knob at at desirable middle point between those 2 points (for me about 11:30)4th: enjoy years of feedback free high volume, high gain tone. Where is part 5? Weak ass anemic tone you pretend is good cause it cost more than an NS-2 and scores you internet cred? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tommy Horrible Posted June 30, 2012 Members Share Posted June 30, 2012 Where is part 5? Weak ass anemic tone you pretend is good cause it cost more than an NS-2 and scores you internet cred? I told you find the point where it doesn't effect the tone at all then dial it back some more. If it's effecting your tone your doing wrong. Also, if you need to dial it up so high that it's effecting your tone to kill the feedback and noise from you rig you've got way bigger problems to deal with then the decimator. It's not holy water than can turn a Zack Wylde MG into a Diezel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members les_paul Posted June 30, 2012 Members Share Posted June 30, 2012 As far as I'm concerned the Decimator is only better if you ever turn the pedal off. If you use a noise gate at all times, save some cash and buy the NS-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DarkHorseJ27 Posted June 30, 2012 Members Share Posted June 30, 2012 I once had a thread like this on TGP. Except it was about Fenders and Dumbles. I got banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ENdtime Posted June 30, 2012 Members Share Posted June 30, 2012 Where is part 5? Weak ass anemic tone you pretend is good cause it cost more than an NS-2 and scores you internet cred? Did you check the battery? Cause what you are saying is ridiculous.. It is darn near impossible to detect when in its on or off.. It may be you are expecting too much out of it.. I mean there are limits to everything.. I basically set it to the point where if I mute the strings with my right hand only it shuts down.. And when I let go of the strings I'll get feedback.. This allows plenty of decay and I'm still in control of what gets gated and requires a bit of playing technique, but I'd rather it aid in what I'm doing rather than fixing my mistakes. Like expecting it to clamp down if I made a sloppy stop or mute. I mean, I'm not expecting it to fix sloppy playing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rock Hardness Posted June 30, 2012 Members Share Posted June 30, 2012 If your signal to noise ratio is actually a noise to signal ratio, it's not gonna work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shane159 Posted June 30, 2012 Members Share Posted June 30, 2012 Something is not right b/c you should have no cut unless it is passed 1 oclock. I like the NS2 also ,but it sucks tone pretty bad and adds flubb to the lown end when I run it in the loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hugbot Posted June 30, 2012 Members Share Posted June 30, 2012 I was super dissapointed in the decimator. The whole "lol you {censored}ed up dialing in a pedal with only one knob" thing doesent make sense to me. It can be REALLY irritating dialing in a pedal with one knob if that one knob isnt sufficient to get it it where you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members les_paul Posted June 30, 2012 Members Share Posted June 30, 2012 I actually like the MXR Smart Gate better than the NS-2 or the Decimator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members magh8 Posted June 30, 2012 Members Share Posted June 30, 2012 This makes absolutely no sense....decimator is way better than the ns2 amd hush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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