Members ***1776*** Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Is the ref "technically' correct because of the rules? --- If both players have possession at same time the offensive player is awarded the ball? Anyone know 4 sure? I thought the replacement refs would get better over time (I still do) but no doubt they had a rough night last night/most of the weekend, cant deny that --- the regular refs sucked as well but we want them back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members extollo Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Is the ref "technically' correct because of the rules? --- If both players have possession at same time the offensive player is awarded the ball? Anyone know 4 sure? Yes. That is the rule. The argument is whether the passing team actually acquired possession after the defender - which is what it *looks* like on replay. This may be one of those 'possession/football move' issues. The ball is basically up for grabs until possession is established. During that time the offensive player can compete for possession even after the defender touches and secures the ball. If they both have it when possession is established, then passing team wins. edit: re: this play was really a final straw type deal. If this was the only controversial play in the game & professional refs made the call people would get over it. Pro refs would explain in detail though. edit#2: per the rule book, first control is the key here - not what happens when possession is established. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Axe_34 Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Simultaneous Catch. If a pass is caught simultaneously by two eligible opponents, and both players retain it, the ball belongs to the passers. It is not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first and an opponent subsequently gains joint control. I think it's clear Jennings had possession and Tate latched on afterward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Axe_34 Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Oh, and the NFL is holding a news conference today to address the call. Think they'll overturn it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members diddlybo Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Russell Wilson is the first person in history to throw a game winning interception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members extollo Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Oh, and the NFL is holding a news conference today to address the call. Think they'll overturn it? No. But I think the key word in your quote is 'control'. Which is where I'm wrong above. Jennings had control before Tate. Maybe when both feet came down and possession was established they both had it, but according to that exception clause - I dont think that matters. First one with control has it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members diddlybo Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 The whole thing about who came down with the ball shouldn't have been an issue at all, as there should have been a penalty on the play. That was the most flagrant offensive interference I've ever seen. The receiver just flat out pushed the DB to the ground. How could they not see that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ***1776*** Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 The whole thing about who came down with the ball shouldn't have been an issue at all, as there should have been a penalty on the play. That was the most flagrant offensive interference I've ever seen. The receiver just flat out pushed the DB to the ground. How could they not see that?Actually it happens alot on jump balls/hail marys in foorball, more than ya thinkThe defender made a bonehead play by trying to catch it instead of swatting it down, your taught to swat it towards the ground so its a dead ball and play over! --- Im not defending anyone here, but if he did (swat it) that the call would not have happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members "sasquatch" Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 i am loving these refs. pure chaos on the field = lulz had. enjoying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elemenope Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 I rarely watch football. But even I can tell that the refs are sucking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crunchtime Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Actually it happens alot on jump balls/hail marys in foorball, more than ya think The defender made a bonehead play by trying to catch it instead of swatting it down, your taught to swat it towards the ground so its a dead ball and play over! --- Im not defending anyone here, but if he did (swat it) that the call would not have happened Did you happen to catch the Lions game on Sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crunchtime Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Actually it happens alot on jump balls/hail marys in foorball, more than ya think The defender made a bonehead play by trying to catch it instead of swatting it down, your taught to swat it towards the ground so its a dead ball and play over! --- Im not defending anyone here, but if he did (swat it) that the call would not have happened Did you happen to catch the Lions game on Sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members metalguy Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Did you happen to catch the Lions game on Sunday? This. The swatting thing isn't necessarily the "best" play as evident by the Lions/Titans game. And if Sheik were to see this post he can attest to the Texans/Jags game in 2010 where the texans were burned in the same manner. Either way the call should've been called PI regardless of whether it is usually called or not that was just blatant as all hell. Simultaneous my ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bumhucker Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 What boiled my blood was Pete Carrol being a glib little douchebag acting like they won fair and square Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Samnite Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Wait! This can't be right! I was given to understand that the refs were getting better every week! :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MahaloVision Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Everybody is talking about the last play of the game and seems to have forgotten all the rest of the officiating absurdity in the 4th quarter. That, and the 8 sacks in the first half alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members homestar_kevin Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kenny Powers Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Everybody is talking about the last play of the game and seems to have forgotten all the rest of the officiating absurdity in the 4th quarter. That, and the 8 sacks in the first half alone. what makes you think anyone forgot about anything? because people are focusing on the one GIGANTIC {censored}ING CALL that was blown? that literally cost a team a game... ONE {censored}ING CALL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MahaloVision Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 what makes you think anyone forgot about anything? because people are focusing on the one GIGANTIC {censored}ING CALL that was blown? that literally cost a team a game... ONE {censored}ING CALL. Because of the previous bad calls that would have either stopped the drive earlier, or negated the Packers touchdown drive previously. It's all bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DarkHorseJ27 Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 i am loving these refs. pure chaos on the field = lulz had. enjoying it. Perfect bait for trolls too, since many were already emotionally involved even before a single word was typed. On a more serious note, even if the call is proven to be correct beyond any reproach, the most important implication of this call will be a much stronger push by many to get the regular referees back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JR13 Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 is there a video of the call everyones talking about? edit, found it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mesa/Kramer Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members skibob Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Oh, and the NFL is holding a news conference today to address the call. Think they'll overturn it? The league always sides with the refs. They are always right, even when they are wrong.And when the league is in the middle of a labor dispute with the real officials, saying "yup, the replacement officials screwed up big time" would be suicide.If that screwup costs the Packers a playoff berth, I will really be pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 Those pics are entirely too blurry. You can barely make out the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mesa/Kramer Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 The NFL just concluded an hour ago that the catch was indeed good. http://news.yahoo.com/nfl-upholds-seahawks-disputed-win-over-packers-164851410--nfl.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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