Members Chrisjd Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 I have duncan distortions in my guitars, and I generally LOVE that pickup, but i find it a touch too searing in the high end with my alder body/ebony board ESP M1. I took the distortion out and am looking for something different that will have that really aggressive midrange and strong bottom end, but that will not be so sizzly up top. Per seymour duncan's tone chart, the invader has the same mid rating and same dc resistance as the distortion, but with significantly more lowend and less treble. Why is this pickup never mentioned? What are your experiences? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 A lot of people don't like them. I have on in my Goth SG that I really dig. But that SG is tuned to C#/Drop B and is mostly used to play Down/CoC type stuff which I think it excels at. If you are into super-tight metal then it isn't for you. But it is dark and mid-rangey with a ton of output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 100 watt Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 I've had a few Invaders. Liked them with my 2203's. Hated 'em with NMV amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zacman0126 Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 I wouldnt use it for anything lower than drop d, it just gets too muddy after that. I found it takes away alot of the gain as well, I mean sure it's a lot smoother as a result but I found it really took the umph out of it as well. It's great for fast thrashy chugs in drop d tho, comes through nice and clear so its great for that static stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thefyn Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 They are awesome if you want to metalize a skinny guitar or a strat etc. I love how thick they are for thrash ryth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted November 26, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Basically what I am hearing is that it would probably be a great option for a standard tuned guitar. And to think Nile puts them in strats and tunes to A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dolf Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Originally Posted by thefyn They are awesome if you want to metalize a skinny guitar or a strat etc. I love how thick they are for thrash ryth. Pretty much this. Sounded great in my alder Delonge strat years back. Of course that was ONLY ever high gain. Shit for clean, huge magnet pull on the strings, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wwhhaatt Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 It was the worst pickup I ever tried. I put it in my Carvin then ESP SC6 and it was just an awful muddy mess in both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ej Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Originally Posted by wwhhaatt It was the worst pickup I ever tried. I put it in my Carvin then ESP SC6 and it was just an awful muddy mess in both this. Tried it in a couple guitars. Loose, muddy, crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted November 26, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Damn. this guitar is gonna be in C or B. I'am gonna pass on the invader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Originally Posted by Chrisjd Damn. this guitar is gonna be in C or B. I'am gonna pass on the invader. I would check out the SD Alternative 8. I have one in a Strat and an LP and it sounds great it both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted November 26, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Originally Posted by MattACaster I would check out the SD Alternative 8. I have one in a Strat and an LP and it sounds great it both. I am afraid to try an alnico magnet. I think ceramic is where it's at for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 i've got an invader in my guitar, sounds decent in drop B.the warpig is home to me, though. it's just so gatdamn crunchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wwhhaatt Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 I absolutely love the Anderson H3+ in my SC6. It's alder/maple/alder with an ebony board so probably pretty close to your M1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted November 26, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Originally Posted by wwhhaatt I absolutely love the Anderson H3+ in my SC6. It's alder/maple/alder with an ebony board so probably pretty close to your M1 I've heard good things about that pickup. I will try to find a tone chart for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted November 26, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Anderson's site doesn't have the best of descriptions unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Originally Posted by Chrisjd I am afraid to try an alnico magnet. I think ceramic is where it's at for me. I don't like the high end/fizzyness in ceramics but I love the output. So far the Alt 8 is the best pickup I've played that has what I consider to be the best attributes or ceramics and alnicos. It's really a great pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 100 watt Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 I'll stick with the trusty (generic / cliche) EMG 81 set up. I go back to it every time. moar gain, volume up. Less gain..volume down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted November 26, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Originally Posted by MattACaster I don't like the high end/fizzyness in ceramics but I love the output. So far the Alt 8 is the best pickup I've played that has what I consider to be the best attributes or ceramics and alnicos. It's really a great pickup. Hmmm.. You have me curious... Originally Posted by 100 watt I'll stick with the trusty (generic / cliche) EMG 81 set up. I go back to it every time. moar gain, volume up. Less gain..volume down. Dude, the 81 is a great pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 100 watt Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Originally Posted by Chrisjd Dude, the 81 is a great pickup. Agreed. I always catch hell for liking them lol. Versitile, in the right hands with the right set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 this. Tried it in a couple guitars. Loose, muddy, crap. yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peavey_impact Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 I am afraid to try an alnico magnet. I think ceramic is where it's at for me. Dude I bet you'd probably love the BG Hellabucker - it sounds almost exactly like what you are looking for. It reminds me of a blend between the EMG 85 and the Duncan Distortion, and FWIW I had both of those pickups (AND the 81) in the same guitar and while I liked them all the Hellabucker blew them away. Still my favorite high output pickup to date. Only drawback is BG is a one man shop and his wait times are pretty long (about a month last I checked) but they are very cheap for being handmade. I used to be the same way (thought that ceramic mag pickups were the ONLY choice for brutal shit) but now I've seen the light I have not used the Invader, but i've always thought it seems like something I might dig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sl2gx Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 The invader was way too bassy for me I got rid of it fast. I was going to mention the alt 8 as well I have one in an alder body and its like a jb on roids. Not as harsh as the dd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ~Abstract~ Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Who's had/played with Duncan's Invader? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 The invader was way too bassy for me I got rid of it fast. I was going to mention the alt 8 as well I have one in an alder body and its like a jb on roids. Not as harsh as the dd yeah that's like an Invader done right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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