Members dewees Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 Originally posted by Funderbunk How do I drive up the price of auctions? If I'm willing to pay $200 bucks for something, the only way to beat me is to be willing to pay more. If they "really want the stuff", then they have to be willing to spend more than I'm willing to spend - that's all there is to it. This is certainly true no matter when people bid. The point is that if I bid my $220 an hour before the auction's end, you will see the proxy bid of $205. You might feel compelled to say, "OK, I'll go $210." I'll still win. But for $215. If you don't see my bid, then I will win the auction at $205. If $200 was really your highest bid, it wouldn't make a difference. But several posters here have whined about losing auctions by a fraction of a $. Those people would have bid again, given the opportunity. Sniping takes away that opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jdjonsson Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 eSnipe.com But if your max bid had been high enough, you wouldn't have lost. QED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funderbunk Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 Originally posted by dewees This is certainly true no matter when people bid.The point is that if I bid my $220 an hour before the auction's end, you will see the proxy bid of $205. You might feel compelled to say, "OK, I'll go $210." I'll still win. But for $215. If you don't see my bid, then I will win the auction at $205. But see, that's my point. I was willing to spend $200. That was my max bid. That's what I entered. You bid more than me - congrats, I'm out. I don't drive up prices; in fact, quite the opposite. If I had sniping software (or was sitting there, refreshing like crazy), yeah, I would have driven the price up. Second guessing your max bid and sniping are what drive up prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 Originally posted by Fosse Fox You wouldn't pay an extra 2 cents for something you really wanted? You sound like the sort of person who drives up the prices of auctions. If you're not prepared to win summat bad enough, you should let the people who really want the stuff win it. How stupid is that comment? WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dewees Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 Originally posted by Funderbunk But see, that's my point. I was willing to spend $200. That was my max bid. That's what I entered. You bid more than me - congrats, I'm out. I don't drive up prices; in fact, quite the opposite. If I had sniping software (or was sitting there, refreshing like crazy), yeah, I would have driven the price up.Second guessing your max bid and sniping are what drive up prices. I was probably editing when you posted: If $200 was really your highest bid, it wouldn't make a difference. But several posters here have whined about losing auctions by a fraction of a $. Those people would have bid again, given the opportunity. Sniping takes away that opportunity. Oh and absolutely - That second guessing is what sniping prevents. Not sure I see how sniping drives up prices... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pigsinzen Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 This is what I do. About 10 minutes before the auction is over, I bid on it. THEN I do that thing where you can tell Ebay the most you'll pay for it so that Ebay keeps bidding. That way, I don't pay more than I want to and I don't get in the midst of bidding wars. Plus it stops the snipers. Had one recently try to snipe a Boss phaser from me. Didn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jim7895 Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 "If I really wanted it, I should have..." If I really want it, why would I go buy it, from a reputable distributor, and get good service, a warranty, and not have to pay shipping? Ebay is turning into a pain in the butt. There are always threads about eBay complaints. Use it and live with it, or don't use it. Seems pretty simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mazi Bee Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 Fine, bid the maximum you want, but the way the psychology of bidding works, is you have to keep your max bid a secret until the very last moment.It's pointless to show your hand several days or even hours or even minutes before the auction ends. Don't let competitive bidders know how much you are willing to spend. That keeps the prices lower. I have won many many auctions for sick low prices by doing it this way. I decided exactly how much I want to spend, then I add on a couple of bucks. So for a $200 I'll bid say 207.88. Then, I never show that hand until the last 5 seconds of the auction.I have sent many a competitive bidder running home crying this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dewees Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 Originally posted by Pigsinzen This is what I do. About 10 minutes before the auction is over, I bid on it. THEN I do that thing where you can tell Ebay the most you'll pay for it so that Ebay keeps bidding. That way, I don't pay more than I want to and I don't get in the midst of bidding wars. Plus it stops the snipers. Had one recently try to snipe a Boss phaser from me. Didn't work. 10 minutes doesn't stop snipers. My program places bids a few as 15 seconds before the auction's end. As always, if your maximum bid is lower than mine, I'll win the auction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mighty Coogna! Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 They aught to have a 1 day grace period where you can browse the complete auctions and make another offer. No sniping allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funderbunk Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 Originally posted by dewees Not sure I see how sniping drives up prices... That's true; I admit that I was wrong. However, they are annoying as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dewees Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 Originally posted by Funderbunk That's true; I admit that I was wrong. However, they are annoying as hell. That's where we're different, Fenderbunk - I would have found a way to argue that point until I made a complete ass of myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funderbunk Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 Originally posted by dewees That's where we're different, Fenderbunk - I would have found a way to argue that point until I made a complete ass of myself. Eh, I think I'm getting too old (or too apathetic) to get into protracted message board drama anymore....Which, actually, is probably why I deal with eBay the way I do. I'm not willing to put up with all this game playing, philosophy of the deal stuff. I'm trying to buy a guitar, not win a chess game. I decide what I want and my max bid, throw down, and if it goes my way, great. If not, well, there's always another guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ylwledbetter68 Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 Snipers don't make me angry quite as much as the people who bid within the first 2-3 days that the auction is put online. There's no reason to place a bid when there are 4 days left unless you're gonna be w/o internet for those 4 days. But it seems to happen very often where I'll see a great deal and within a day people have already beefed the price up a lot. People would pay a lot less for the item if they waited til the last day, or hour, or minute, to bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funderbunk Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 Originally posted by ylwledbetter68 Snipers don't make me angry quite as much as the people who bid within the first 2-3 days that the auction is put online. There's no reason to place a bid when there are 4 days left unless you're gonna be w/o internet for those 4 days. But it seems to happen very often where I'll see a great deal and within a day people have already beefed the price up a lot. People would pay a lot less for the item if they waited til the last day, or hour, or minute, to bid. Ummm... why shouldn't they bid early? If I am, indeed, willing to pay $200 bucks for something, then that's what I bid. Heck, I like bidding early - because I only bid once. Bid once, with my true genuine max bid, and if it goes over that, then I can forget it and start looking for something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dewees Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 Originally posted by Funderbunk Eh, I think I'm getting too old (or too apathetic) to get into protracted message board drama anymore.... Man, I just turned 50! last Sunday.I can't believe I survived that night in Cortez.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 Originally posted by Mighty Coogna! They aught to have a 1 day grace period where you can browse the complete auctions and make another offer. No sniping allowed. WOW! How do you allow an auction to go the full amount of time yet not allow people to bid in the last minute of the auction? How is the auction still live if you can't bid? So you can't bid in the last minute so everyone bids in the minute before. Rediculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 Originally posted by Shredhead11 The other night I lost a bid with 7 secs left, someone outbid me by $2.50. It was for a kickass Randall WH-40 (Dime's Sig Combo, 40w, efx loop). Would you have bid $5 more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 Originally posted by Funderbunk Ummm... why shouldn't they bid early? If I am, indeed, willing to pay $200 bucks for something, then that's what I bid. Heck, I like bidding early - because I only bid once. Bid once, with my true genuine max bid, and if it goes over that, then I can forget it and start looking for something else. Ya,why do people think they have the right to decide how others go about their bidding business. The auction is open for a set amount of time. Bid whenever you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted June 17, 2006 Author Moderators Share Posted June 17, 2006 Originally posted by Mazi Bee I decided exactly how much I want to spend, then I add on a couple of bucks. So for a $200 I'll bid say 207.88. Then, I never show that hand until the last 5 seconds of the auction. I have sent many a competitive bidder running home crying this way. Thats what I used to do Mazi, and had a great deal of success. Then I started selling on Ebay, and after experiencing what it was like to see your treasured goods fetching piss all up to 10 mins before the auction end, I then started to bid earlier.But I may return to this tactic. Thanks for the reminder of the way to go dude.....and thanks for being constructive unless some of the other bonfire pissers:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted June 17, 2006 Author Moderators Share Posted June 17, 2006 Originally posted by Funderbunk Ummm... why shouldn't they bid early? If I am, indeed, willing to pay $200 bucks for something, then that's what I bid. Heck, I like bidding early - because I only bid once. Bid once, with my true genuine max bid, and if it goes over that, then I can forget it and start looking for something else. In a real ideal world this would be the way to conduct the auction, and it's fairer on sellers. There was a period when sellers would quite frequently pulls items before the last 12 hours to prevent low selling prices. All my sales now are on BIN or Open to Offers. Sorry for getting arsey with you dude.....was a tad uptight earlier, and let my steam go where I shouldnt have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted June 17, 2006 Author Moderators Share Posted June 17, 2006 Originally posted by tlbonehead How stupid is that comment? WOW! I've just looked through all your posts on this thread for something constructive:rolleyes: Why don't you run along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funderbunk Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 Originally posted by Fosse Fox Sorry for getting arsey with you dude.....was a tad uptight earlier, and let my steam go where I shouldnt have. Hey, no problem - it sucks getting your hopes up for a new toy, and then not getting it.It took me a long time to be able to set aside the emotional aspect of eBay - it's so easy to get sucked in. But like I said earlier, there's always another guitar out there that'll show up tomorrow, or next week, or the week after... (I guess they're like women like that...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 I'm with Mazi on this. I always bid with one second left. I don't give anyone an opportunity to outbid me. If i bid my max early, someone will outbid me. I've won nearly every auction I wanted and always for less than my max bid. Sometimes for much less. As a buyer, you want to win and win at the lowest possible cost. I have a max for an item I want but I don't want to spend it if I don't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TeleFromHelly Posted June 17, 2006 Members Share Posted June 17, 2006 In a somewhat related topic, the dc snipers just admitted to killing 3 more people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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